This week on the Oakley Podcast, hosts Jeremy Kellett and Megan Cummings chat with David Hossack, one of our Owner/Operators at Oakley Trucking. During the episode, David shares his journey growing up in Scotland and how he ended up in the United States. He also talks about being a chef, how he entered the trucking industry, his experiences with various companies, and his decision to join Oakley. The discussion highlights the challenges and rewards of being an owner-operator, the importance of family support, and the camaraderie within the Oakley community. The episode also provides valuable insights and advice for current and aspiring truckers, emphasizing the balance between work and personal life, and more.
Key topics in today’s conversation include:
- Introducing Today’s Episode (1:02)
- David’s Background and Journey in Trucking (4:14)
- Growing up in Scotland (4:38)
- Cultural Differences (5:40)
- Career Path Before Trucking (9:05)
- Driving Experience (10:48)
- Decision to Join Oakley (12:15)
- Challenges of Owner-Operators (16:10)
- Balancing Work and Home Life (17:18)
- Importance of Dispatch (20:22)
- David Winning Owner Operator of the Year (22:59)
- Future Plans (25:48)
- Appreciation for Team at Oakley (27:03)
- Final Thoughts and Takeaways (28:33)
Oakley Trucking is a family-owned and operated trucking company headquartered in North Little Rock, Arkansas. For more information, check out our show website: podcast.bruce oakley.com.
Transcription
Jeremy Kellett 00:12
What made you want to come here?
David Hossack 00:14
You know, I don’t think I’ve ever told you this before. I spoke to someone here, back in the early 2000s the time I had some personal things going on, I ended up having to sell the truck, but I’d always had Oakley in the back of my mind. I worked for 10 years for a company, and then when that happened, when they shut down, I decided to go buy a truck. And my wife said, Well, I was looking at used trucks. And she said, Well, no, I could go buy a truck, buy a new one. Okay. So called dealership, Barrett said, wife says, buy a new truck. So we did, and I worked for a guy that was a broker for landstar. And of course, same old story with Van rates, when it’s good. We were in the not so good period for a while, and I must have filled something in online for Oakley. And one day I got a call from Kent and the rest is history.
Jeremy Kellett 01:02
Welcome to the Oakley podcast, trucking business and family. This show is brought to you by Oakley trucking, headquartered at North Little Rock, Arkansas. The purpose of this podcast is to communicate with Oakley owner operators and their families by giving them up to date information concerning Oakley trucking and the trucking industry, from business advice to safety updates, to success stories, also to give an insight to outside truck drivers that might be interested in joining the Oakley family. Hey, welcome to the Oakley podcast, trucking business and family. My name is Jeremy kellett. I’m director of recruiting here at Oakley trucking, and I’m your host for this podcast. On today’s episode, we are talking to another one of our owner operators, Mr. David Hossack. And I tell you what, this man has been hard to wrangle up and get up here. He has fought us since, I don’t know, a couple of years trying to get him up here to do an episode. But I think you’ll understand why I’ve been working so hard to get him up here. And we’re going to visit with him a little bit to see and talk a little bit more about his success story and how he’s come a long way to get to where he is today. So along my side, got my co-host from Megan Cummings. What’s going on? Megan,
Megan Cummings 02:10
I think I always say living the dream. Yeah, I should have thought about something else before I came in here. Well,
Jeremy Kellett 02:14
I mean to I pulled you out of orientation to come
Megan Cummings 02:18
up here. Yeah, I’m trying to move the microwave so you can’t hear my heavy breathing. So
Jeremy Kellett 02:22
I know you’ve your mind somewhere else, probably, yeah, I knew you would be mad at me if I got David up here.
Megan Cummings 02:29
Yeah, I would have never forgiven you. You would have been and hopefully David feels the same way. Of course, I was hoping you would say, actually, I’m not going to do it unless
David Hossack 02:37
Megan was asked Megan to ask, well, he’s trying.
Jeremy Kellett 02:41
That’s all we need to know. We had to resort to Manuel as dispatcher talking him into it to get up here. So sorry. And then when he tried to get Manuel up here, Manuel broke out in hives and said, No, I’ve got trucks to dispatch. So anyway. But no, everything is going your way. I know it’s a tough week this week, we’ve got a lot going on interesting. I appreciate you coming up here on the spur of the moment. Absolutely gotta give the people what they want. Oh yeah, I know we do. They’ve been requesting you.
Megan Cummings 03:11
I mean, yeah, that would be we’d see angry mobs outside if
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Jeremy Kellett 04:00
I appreciate everybody listening to the podcast. We’re gonna get right into this with David and visit with him a little bit. David, if I didn’t explain, David’s an owner operator with us. David, how long have you been with Oakley? Just over five years now. Five years. Man, it doesn’t seem like it’s gone by so fast.
David Hossack 04:19
It has been back quick. Yeah, and
Jeremy Kellett 04:21
you’re pulling an end up driver and dump, yep. Okay, is that what you started out doing? Yes, you’ve been doing that the whole five years. Well, tell us a little bit about David. I said the last name, right, didn’t it? David Hossack. Hossack. Hossack, yeah. Okay, yeah. Tell us a little bit about your David’s history. Well,
David Hossack 04:38
from Scotland originally, and moved here. Gosh, I’ve been here 32 years. I believe it is now. So yeah, and you live, live in Arizona, Mesa, Arizona.
Megan Cummings 04:50
That accent is still going strong. Yeah,
David Hossack 04:54
you think I’ve lost it there. So, okay, wait, if
Jeremy Kellett 04:57
you lived in Arkansas, you would have, oh,
Megan Cummings 04:58
yeah. Absolutely. Well, I guess I can’t ask that without putting you on the spot, about your age. But if you are okay, how long have you been here?
David Hossack 05:07
I got the calculator, right? Well, yeah, let me say I was 25 when I moved here. I Am 31 years old. Okay, 31 years I’ve been here. Yeah, I was about 25 somewhere
Jeremy Kellett 05:18
around there. So can I ask what made you move here.
David Hossack 05:20
I had a family. My dad’s sister emigrated here back in the 50s, I guess, you know, and they lived in California. So the first time I came here, I would have been in the early 20s and visited them in California, and just blown away. Just so different. You know what’s different about it? I don’t know where the weather is, the weather’s different. I don’t know just everything, just the countryside, people. I remember the first time I went to the grocery store. I mean, we have nice grocery stores back home, but going in a grocery store in California and just seeing all the fresh fruit and vegetables, it’s like, wow,
Jeremy Kellett 05:59
they don’t, you don’t have that over
David Hossack 06:01
my stand, you know, I don’t know, just everything was bigger. Okay, a lot of people probably say that, you know, everything was bigger, cars, trucks, everything’s bigger.
Megan Cummings 06:11
So, okay, you said you visited her in
David Hossack 06:14
visited her. So that was my dad’s sister, and she had three children, so my cousins, so I hung out, and I made two or three trips back and forth, you know, over a couple of years. And she
06:26
Was she in Arizona? Was she in Arizona? Oh, California,
David Hossack 06:29
okay, Northern California, near Fremont, California, near San Francisco. So eventually I was like, You know what, I need to move because at the time, this would have been, yeah, mid 90s, there was kind of a recession going on over there, so a lot of unemployment. That was another thing. You know, I opened the newspaper here in California, then it was like, she was like, wow. So, I went through the process, and she helped me by sponsoring me, you know, got the green card, and here I am, 3031 years later. Isn’t
Megan Cummings 07:01
Is it so funny how the grass is always greener? Yep, because I’m always thinking, Yeah, well,
David Hossack 07:07
The grass is sea. It’s so green over there, yeah, because it rains all the time. So, but I’ve loved every minute of being in Arizona since we moved there. Gosh, how many years I’ll get all my dates and years from 15 years, I think 1415, years have been in Arizona, okay,
Megan Cummings 07:27
Was there anything in particular that drew you there? Pardon? Was there anything particular that drew
David Hossack 07:32
Actually, I was driving, can I use the word Swift? I was driving for Swift when I first came here. I thought I could just go, because I had my class A back over there. They call it a class one. And I thought I was going to the DMV and get everything switched over. No, I had to take my car test again, a regular car test, so I had to do that. And I thought, you know, four, $5,000 to go to truck driving school. Maybe I have to do something different. But now, I was talking to somebody, and he recommended Swift. They had a truck driving school, and it was basically free. But I’m I think if you can cut, if
Jeremy Kellett 08:12
you go through the school and then you got to go to work for them,
David Hossack 08:15
they pretty much guaranteed you a job, yeah, past your class, and if you worked for them for a year, you got all the money back. So
Jeremy Kellett 08:23
That was pretty early on. That was
David Hossack 08:27
early on. That would have been mid 90s, somewhere around there, but
Jeremy Kellett 08:30
you were driving prior to that in Scotland, yeah. But not very
David Hossack 08:34
little. I haven’t had my class A, class one, Class A, my father was a truck driver. Oh, really, for years, yeah, and he did pretty good for himself. He progressed from that to ending up becoming a hotelier restaurant, hotel restaurant bar. So I kind of grew up more in the hotel side of things. I was actually a chef in my early days. I went to culinary school after school. Oh, did you? Yeah, yeah, after high school, after high school. Yeah, went to, went to culinary school, and I was a chef for about four years
Jeremy Kellett 09:12
now. Do you dabble in that anymore?
David Hossack 09:13
Not really. I’ll never starve. I probably forgot more than what I learned, really, you know, but yeah, I enjoyed it while I was young, but the hours were almost as bad as weekends, holidays.
Jeremy Kellett 09:30
You mentioned your wife. Oh, nice, yeah. Y’all moved Arizona. Tell me about your family.
David Hossack 09:35
Okay, I’m married to my wife, Jackie. We’ve been married. Actually, what we’re going on. I better get this right. 12 years. 1112 years, okay? And as I say, we have seven, seven children, six who have grown out of the house. And then we have an 11 year old, and 15 grandchildren. Oh,
Jeremy Kellett 09:53
wow, 15 so that’s a lot. Are they all living around that area?
David Hossack 09:57
Hey, actually, four. Maybe I better get this right. To four in Scotland. Oh, my oldest daughter still lives there. Okay, you
Megan Cummings 10:04
went back earlier this year, didn’t I? You didn’t last year,
David Hossack 10:08
went back last year, which was awesome. That’s the first time I’ve been back in almost 10 years. Wow. So we went back last year and saw everybody, and still got a lot of family over there. Yes, yeah, I’ve got some aunts and uncles, cousins and the grandkids and my daughter. And
Jeremy Kellett 10:23
What are they? What they think about you coming over to the US and stay in I don’t
David Hossack 10:28
know. They like to come. They come here and visit. It’s been a few years since they’ve done that too. But yeah, they Yeah. They like it here, but they seem to be happy over there too. It’s just funny. Like you said, the grass is always greener,
Megan Cummings 10:41
absolutely.
Jeremy Kellett 10:43
So you got into truck driving school. You went to Swift, yes, and drove was a company driver for drove
David Hossack 10:49
as a company driver for them for probably two or three years. And then I bought my first truck, I would say, around 2019 95 Freightliner. And at least sat with them, okay? And I think it was something to do with they’re based in Phoenix, you know. So that was part of the story. Plus, the price of buying a home in California was just going so, you Phoenix M was a lot more affordable. Yeah, not now, yeah, it’s getting close to California now. Yeah, so was
Megan Cummings 11:24
Is there something in particular that drew you to buying a truck instead of just being a company driver at the time? Do you remember, well,
David Hossack 11:31
to be my own boss, really? You know? Yeah, that’s about it.
Jeremy Kellett 11:35
Well, that’s a, you know, that’s a big decision.
David Hossack 11:39
It has a big decision, yeah,
Jeremy Kellett 11:41
but you’ve been doing it now for a long time, so for a while now. Well, I went, I was gonna say, Be gone back to
David Hossack 11:46
company. Prior to coming here, I was a company driver for 10 years. The Chemical Company did that, and they ended up closing the plant. It was a chemical plant in Arizona, and they shut that down. It was on the reservation and something to do with their lease, or they didn’t want to, the tribe didn’t want to renew the lease. Was
Megan Cummings 12:07
What were you doing before you came here? Pardon? Was that what you were doing before you came here?
David Hossack 12:11
Yes, okay, yep.
Jeremy Kellett 12:12
So what might you decide to come here? You know, I
David Hossack 12:15
I don’t think I’ve ever told you this before. I spoke to someone here back in the early 2000s about recruiting Scotty Scott, yeah, maybe at the time I had some personal things going on, and ended up having to sell the truck, but I’d always had Oakley in the back of my mind for some reason, yeah. And so actually, I was wrong. I worked for 10 years for a company, and then when that happens, when they shut down, I decided to go buy a truck. And my wife said, Well, I was looking at used trucks. And she said, Well, no, I could go buy a truck, buy a new one. Okay? So called dealership back, said, wife says, buy a new truck. So we did, and I worked for a guy that was a broker for lansar in Arizona. Worked for him for a year and a half, maybe. And of course, same old story with Van rates when it’s good. And we were in a not so good period for a while. And I must have filled something in online for Oakley. And one day I got a call from Kent Childish, and the rest is history. Here you are, here, yeah? Five
Jeremy Kellett 13:25
years later. Five years Yeah.
David Hossack 13:27
Well,
Jeremy Kellett 13:28
you know, I always like to see how guys learned about us, right? Because, you know, typically you talk to some other owner operators before coming over. Yep. Do you ever do that? I
David Hossack 13:39
did. I did several and never got a bad story. So that’s always that was like, because normally, if you go talk to some other car or drivers, you might get two or three good someone’s
Megan Cummings 13:48
gonna have something bad to say. Yeah, I
David Hossack 13:51
never heard a bad word. I’m okay. It’ll be so digging a little further and say, Me and Ken spoke for a while, and I said, How long do you think
Jeremy Kellett 13:59
What did that process take? I mean, you speaking with Kent, you doing your research? I mean, I think a lot of people think that happens quick,
David Hossack 14:06
but I would say probably about six months, yeah, before I actually came over. Yep, you know, between talking to other people, Oakley drivers, and then my wife was dead against it. She didn’t want me to. She thought I should stay where I was. Oh, really, yeah, I don’t think she knew that I had done some research on my own. I knew the company had been here a long time, you know, so I knew kind of what was going on. So I think she was a little nervous, yeah, of course, making the jump, you know. So
Jeremy Kellett 14:36
we had a brand new truck, yeah, yeah, years. That
David Hossack 14:40
was about seven, eight months old,
Jeremy Kellett 14:41
and I brought it over here. Now, what kind of truck Do you own now?
David Hossack 14:45
Just got a new one. And December, Kenworth’s W9 100, really? Yeah,
Jeremy Kellett 14:50
brand new. It
David Hossack 14:51
was brand new. Picked it up in December. Nice. Knock on wood. So far so good. Yeah, loving
Jeremy Kellett 14:56
it. Those W nines are, are beautiful, true, nice, right? Spreads Good,
David Hossack 15:00
nice and smooth. I’m happy.
Jeremy Kellett 15:02
Is it kind of off topic? Is it hard to get in and out of places with that w9
David Hossack 15:06
so not really, not as bad as I thought it was going to be okay, to be honest. No, yeah,
Jeremy Kellett 15:11
I know we go into some tap place,
David Hossack 15:12
we do, we do. But they just got to be, be careful, take your time and no, a little bit more back and forth, back
Jeremy Kellett 15:19
and forth. Know how to drive? I autograph.
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Jeremy Kellett 16:10
I try to ask, you know, a lot of our owner operators that we interview, David, what are some of the biggest challenges becoming an owner operator, or being an owner operator? Because I think people, a lot of guys out there, maybe company drivers, you know, they have that dream. Maybe I want to be an owner operator someday, but they feel like it’s unattainable. They feel like it’s just, you know, trucks that cost so much and repairs and I’m scared to do it. I mean, you know, what would you tell somebody thinking about it? Fear
David Hossack 16:41
is a big thing. You know, scared to make a jump, because it is a big, it is a big jump. You know, to go buy your own truck. You’re in charge. You know, tires repairs, you know, you just, you have to climb. You have to if there’s something that you really want to do, just do it. Yeah, it’s America, man, you can do anything and just do it. Go buy a truck and come work for ugly. I’d recommend it to anybody, and I’ve been doing it for a while. Yeah, I wish I’d done it sooner.
Jeremy Kellett 17:11
Well, and that’s what we hear from most of our guys that are over here doing it. I just know that. You know, being an owner operator is not easy.
David Hossack 17:18
No, it’s not easy. You gotta plan. You gotta plan financially. You gotta plan your time. And it’s how I’ve been away from home, you know. But I know guys here at Oakley that get home regularly. It’s my choice. I stay longer, and then I go home longer, a little bit longer. So yeah, it worked out really well for me.
Jeremy Kellett 17:37
So what does your wife think now? Oh,
David Hossack 17:40
she wouldn’t let me leave here now, you know, yeah, she’s very happy, very happy. She’ll be happy here in a couple weeks when she gets her annual birthday present. Oh, October, she gets an all weekend, all exclusive trip to Little Rock.
17:55
Oh,
17:56
I hear
David Hossack 17:58
It’s beautiful. She’s coming to
Jeremy Kellett 18:00
the company party. She’ll be here at
David Hossack 18:02
the party. Yeah, party. Yeah, awesome. She was here last year. Was
Jeremy Kellett 18:05
Yeah, so she must enjoy it. Was here last year. We met because
David Hossack 18:09
We had one of those 50. We had the last grandkid. No, because she’ll be, I think it was two years ago. Did we have a party two years ago?
Jeremy Kellett 18:15
We’ve had it every year? No, well, we met. No, we didn’t have it. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. There
Megan Cummings 18:18
was one in, well, there’s one in 22 that’s one. Yeah, we
Jeremy Kellett 18:22
missed, yeah, you’re right. We
David Hossack 18:24
missed a good couple. And then the first one that we when we started up again, she missed that, because that would have been the last grandchild. Uh, well, good
18:37
party. Oh, really,
David Hossack 18:38
because I remember going back to the hotel a little earlier than usual from the party and talking to her on the phone. And yeah, we had, that was her last granddaughter. Oh, I was born then night of the Oka
Jeremy Kellett 18:49
party. Well, good time. I’m glad she’s coming back. Yeah, she’s enjoying it.
David Hossack 18:53
She enjoys it. We’ve met, we’ve met a lot of people, a lot of drivers here. Yeah, I met a lot of friends, a lot of friends, a lot of friends. Everybody’s when I first started here, everybody was so helpful. You know, Hey, man, here’s my phone number. If you need any help, give me a call. And boy, I did. And my trainer was arrested. So old damn Riley was really my trainer. And we spoke a lot. Did you, you know, when I first went on my own that first few weeks? Yeah, and he was helpful, but yeah, he taught me a lot, man, good guy. Yeah,
Megan Cummings 19:23
He was super. People here, yeah,
David Hossack 19:25
Yes, really great. What a lot of
Jeremy Kellett 19:27
people, one you met you can’t get rid of. Who’s That? That? Josh,
David Hossack 19:31
old Josh scales, Mr. Whistle. Is that what you Oh, we
Jeremy Kellett 19:37
We were talking about that before we started the episode. That’s why I mentioned Josh. Yeah, Josh, yeah,
David Hossack 19:41
yeah. Josh is a good guy, but he’s on Manuel’s board also, yeah. And we actually met probably, I think we’ve both been here about the same amount of time, actually, about five years. And I think we met at customers after about a year or so, and we just kind of spoke or never exchanged numbers or anything. And then we ended up having. Think of a mutual friend, another driver that’s here, and we passed each other on the road one day, and Josh called the other driver, I think it was in there, and got my number. Okay. So we talk a lot. You mentioned
Jeremy Kellett 20:13
y’all both have the same dispatcher. Manuel, yes, tell our listeners a little bit about how dispatch works here, from your point of the you know side of
David Hossack 20:22
ever since day one, I’ve got on great with Manuel. So I think it’s lucky. Maybe we’re both personality wise. I really, I hate to say it, and I have a bad word to say about him. Sorry, man. Well, we’re cutting at it, but no, Manuel’s been great to work for. How does dispatch work? Communication. There you go. You know, call them up. I recall them first thing in the morning because I figure they’re busy, you know. But most of the time, I know what I’m doing until maybe later in the day, but I’ll give them a call, you know, before nine o’clock and check in and just communicate. You know, I’m on time. I’m not on time. I’d probably do that the evening before, you know. But even on weekends, he’s readily available if needed. Again, I don’t like doing it, you know, but he’s there. 24/7, really, what
Jeremy Kellett 21:09
a lot of people come over and have never pulled an end up before? David, right, a little intimidating. It can be. It can be, how, what’s some advice? Or what’s the good and the bad about pulling an end up? The
David Hossack 21:24
The good thing, the thing I liked about it is it’s normally fairly quick, you know, to get loaded. Sometimes it could be 510 minutes when you’re done. You know, same with unloading. It’s normally quick. It’s not like pulling van freight, where you have to be at Walmart distribution center 11 o’clock at night or something. You know, you’re pretty much, what I like about the end up is you have a window, you know. So say, I’m going to deliver in Memphis tomorrow morning. Well, they’re open from 7am to 2pm obviously, you want to get there as early as possible so you can get another load. But that’s what I would say, is good. The bad, there’s not a lot. I mean, it can get dirty, yeah? You know, you got work, yeah. So bring a white dress T shirt, you know, change your clothes. You’re gonna get dirty. Getting a white truck, pardon, getting a white track, that can be a little tricky. Now, of course, most of your newer trailers now you’ve gone to the spread out, so that’s that makes a big difference, yeah, but yeah, you just have to just take your time. That’s the biggest tip I would give anybody, to take your time. Don’t get in a rush. And I wouldn’t be scared of it, you know, but you have to show a little bit of respect to putting that trailer up in there. But safety, safety first, yeah,
Megan Cummings 22:41
we didn’t pay him to say that, by the way. No,
David Hossack 22:44
He did it. Yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 22:46
Well, and here’s another little tidbit Megan, that I don’t know if you remember, but there’s, you know, him saying these things reminds me that he is a former owner operator of the year.
David Hossack 22:59
Oh, yeah, that was during covid. Was it? I never got presented at the party, but yeah, that’s right, yeah, Manuel, yeah,
Megan Cummings 23:06
yeah. So well deserved, yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 23:08
So for our listeners out there, we have, you know, each dispatcher has a board of owner operators, and every year they pick one out of their their board of owner operators, and pick who they think did them the best job, and it includes safety, customer service, paperwork, blog, everything of what they do the best at in those divisions. And David was one of them.
Megan Cummings 23:33
Doesn’t surprise me one bit me, either was
David Hossack 23:36
on it. Neither surprised actually, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 23:38
So thank you. You you think you’re going to repeat
David Hossack 23:41
anytime? So I don’t know. I don’t know. I should have used that as a bargaining power to get up here. Yeah,
Jeremy Kellett 23:49
That’s a good idea. What else? David, okay,
Megan Cummings 23:52
so just for argument’s sake, if we talked about the chef thing, right, tried that, dabbled in that? Yeah? So if you weren’t trucking, have you ever thought about what you would do instead? So a career for a living?
David Hossack 24:08
I honestly don’t know. You know, for a while there I thought about getting into, like, maybe real estate or mortgage, mortgages, anything. But never did. Never did, I don’t know, maybe come with an office dispatch, yeah, which I don’t think I could do another tip of the hat to Manuel. We’ll get your computer set up. Yeah? 4050 trucks. Yeah, I can maybe have a four or five,
Jeremy Kellett 24:32
right? Me too. How do they do it? I
David Hossack 24:34
I don’t know. I don’t know. They’re good, they’re good. They’re very good. Keep us all busy. No, even in the slow times, there’s always something you know, keep us moving.
Jeremy Kellett 24:45
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David Hossack 25:48
hey? Well, we’re not getting any younger, right? So just keep on doing it. Keep on doing.
Jeremy Kellett 25:53
Got two plans down the road? You think you ever moved back to Scotland, or you’ll just go back and visit,
David Hossack 25:59
As I say, we went back last year. My wife had been there before, but she said, Oh boy, I wish we could spend the summers over in Scotland and then winters over here. Well, yeah, that would be nice, yeah, buy a lot of tickets, you know, but I’d like to get her to move this away, yeah. Oh, really, just for the reason that we mentioned earlier, Arizona, the houses have just gone nuts. So I’d like to come out here. And I said we could have a small farm for the price of a house in Arizona, you know. So I would use the grandkids. We could get some horses, some chickens. So I’m trying. I’d say, in the future, hopefully I’ll still be here when I retire. Hopefully, yeah, that’s the plan. I told my wife. This has been my last truck. This year’s business is 56 years old. Now you’ll get another one. You’ll get another Yeah,
Jeremy Kellett 26:50
but I like the way you go. You’ll have that wore out in three or four years
David Hossack 26:54
ago. Pay for it for about
Jeremy Kellett 26:58
you get another one. Yeah, we’ll see. We’ll see. Well, anything else, Megan, for we
Megan Cummings 27:03
always a pleasure to have you, David. We always, I did want to say this, and this isn’t just because the cameras are rolling, but David is such a pleasure to have around. It’s always nice when he comes in the office and that’s late, you know, we’ve got our little desk cubicles. And one time David came in and Vicky was like, You know what? I think you should just come in here sometime and read the news. Yes, give us the weather forecast or something. But yeah, it’s always a pleasure to work. Always in a good mood.
David Hossack 27:34
Well, you know, for the record, Megan has been such a joy to work with, and I’m sure all the drivers who go to Canada will vouch for this, that you’re on top of your job and take care of us. So thank you, Megan, you guys
Megan Cummings 27:49
make it very
David Hossack 27:50
easy. Yeah, tomorrow, yeah, you are, are
Megan Cummings 27:53
you really do your paperwork when we go back downstairs? Niagara
David Hossack 27:55
Falls, so it should be a little cooler up there. Yeah,
Jeremy Kellett 27:57
That’ll be good, yeah. So Well, I appreciate you sitting up here with us. I know it was tough to get Yeah, you’ve been fighting us for a while, but Megan’s right. I mean, the reason that we always wanted to get you up here once, because I knew you had a story from Scotland, but you’re just always in such a good mood, and you just bring a light into this office when you come in here, and it makes everybody else smile and brings everybody else up. So it’s great to have on our operators, like you, David, we got a bunch of them too, you know, oh yeah, out here. And it’s just, it’s just a great thank you. Appreciate you doing it, man.
David Hossack 28:32
Thank you very much.
Jeremy Kellett 28:33
Hey, thanks everybody for listening to the Oakley podcast. We appreciate you guys every week trying to bring you some good, unique stuff that not everybody hears. You know that not every podcast is doing and I’m telling you, we’ve got some fantastic owner operators that have great stories. And I think, you know, I just like to bring delight to our listeners out there that these owner operators are real people, you know, that do a great job, and, you know, have stories just like everybody else does. So glad to bring it to you. I appreciate everybody listening to the Oakley podcast, and we’ll talk to you next week. Thanks. Thanks for listening to this episode with Oakley podcast, trucking, business and family. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to rate or review the show in the podcast platform of your choice and share it with a friend. We love hearing from our audience. So if you’ve got a question comment or just want to say hello, head over to our website, the Oakley podcast.com, and click the leave a comment button. We’ll get you a response soon, and may even share some of the best ones here on the show. We’ll be back with a fresh episode very soon. Thanks for listening.