This week on the Oakley Podcast, hosts Jeremy Kellett and Megan Cummings welcome Jason Cooper, one of our Owner/Operators at Oakley. During the episode, Jason shares his journey from becoming a company driver to his current role at Oakley. He discusses the significance of truckers in the supply chain, the stability of work at Oakley, and the pride of owning a truck. The episode delves into the support Oakley provides to its owner-operators, the camaraderie among drivers, and Jason’s personal experiences, including work-life balance and his relationship with his dispatcher, why Jason has recruited friends to join Oakley, and more.
Key topics in today’s conversation include:
- Introduction of Co-Host Megan (2:00)
- Megan’s experience at Oakley (3:23)
- Jason’s background in trucking (7:38)
- From criminal justice to truck driving (9:54)
- Jason’s experience as an owner-operator at Oakley (16:29)
- Stability of work at Oakley Trucking (18:32)
- Work-life Balance (21:41)
- Truck Driver’s Role in the Economy and Society (24:00)
- Final thoughts and takeaways (25:10)
Oakley Trucking is a family-owned and operated trucking company headquartered in North Little Rock, Arkansas. For more information, check out our show website: podcast.bruceoakley.com
Transcription
Jason Cooper 00:13
Truck drivers make the world go round. So, you know again with the world going around you basically you need us and we need you to consume those goods so that we can continue to haul them to just the everyday person again going down the road just you know we regular people are trying to get home to our families. Don’t cut us off. You know, don’t slam on your brakes in front of us or anything again. Yeah, we may accidentally pull over some time in front of you, but it’s not to not because we’re trying to hurt you or anything like that. Most of your drivers are friendly. We were truck drivers overall. We are good people. Overall, most of my colleagues drive trucks, good families, men and women. We got a few women out here, but good family oriented people that are just trying to make a living.
Jeremy Kellett 00:56
Welcome to the Oakley podcast, trucking, business, and family. This show is brought to you by Oakley Trucking, headquartered in North Little Rock, Arkansas. The purpose of this podcast is to communicate with Oakley owner-operators and their families by giving them up-to-date information concerning Oakley Trucking and the trucking industry. From business advice to safety updates to success stories. Also to give an inside to outside truck drivers that might be interested in joining the Oakley family. Hi, this is Jeremy Kellett, director recruiting here at Oakley trucking and I’m your host for this podcast. This is the Oakley podcast, trucking, business and family. And once again, welcome back to the studio here in North Little Rock. We have had several episodes here in the past few weeks coming from the truck show that we did that were really good. But now it’s time to get back to the roots of the Oakley podcast. And what I mean by that is that sitting down with some of our owner operators and hearing their story, success stories, their history, their life, that it is in trucking, and looking forward to that. So we’re sitting down with Mr. Jason Cooper, and we’re gonna talk to him here in just a minute and visit with him a little bit. But first, you know, we kind of introduced Megan at the truck show into the podcast, and she did a great job. We didn’t really get her in full effect. I
Megan Cummings 02:11
don’t feel a little nerve wracking. Well, there is a lot of stuff going on. It was a lot
Jeremy Kellett 02:16
like the hammer background that was going on, y’all that was very loud and very distracting. But you know, we’ve got Megan is going to sit in with us and she is what I call my official co-host of the Oakley podcast Wow name tag. Yeah. Well, you know, it’s I think it’s gonna be good I think we make a good team doing this I think you’re gonna be able to talk to people real well so I’m looking forward to but hey, as always, even with our guest Megan you got we got to know a little bit about you before you know before the audience before our listeners except you in rod I’m probably know you but they need to know a little bit more about how long do you have
Megan Cummings 03:03
to hold on Jason give me about 25 minutes. It
Jeremy Kellett 03:06
might be its own party.
Megan Cummings 03:10
Well, I have been working at Oakley for actually just celebrating at home because it was on a Sunday. No one bought me a cake or anything but Sunday, April 7 was my three year anniversary. And Oakley
Jeremy Kellett 03:23
Happy anniversary. Yeah.
Megan Cummings 03:24
Thank you very much. Sorry, a couple days late, but it’s sorry. I didn’t know. Well, I forgive you. My grandpa, my mom’s dad worked at Oakley for Bruce. And so there was a little family history in the office at VB or, yeah, he worked in. There were a couple of different plants that they worked at. But he worked in BB with Vinny and Bruce and Dennis when he was younger. And she sent me the job listing for Oakley. I got a call from Tommy Mitchell, maybe an hour after I put in an application and the rest is history. And now we’re all Yeah, now we’re all one big happy family. Yeah. And now I’m co hosting the Oakley podcast.
Jeremy Kellett 04:01
That’s right. How about Oh, no.
Megan Cummings 04:02
It’s been really enjoyable. I’ve never had a morning where I just dreaded coming into work. I really love my job. I’ve never been able to say that before.
Jeremy Kellett 04:11
Oh, it is strange. Single. Live in New Cabot. Kevin
Megan Cummings 04:16
got just me and the two cat cats. Yes. I do have a two bedroom. So I’m moving up on the scale. Slowly
Jeremy Kellett 04:25
but we hear about the cats pretty regularly. Okay.
Megan Cummings 04:30
When you don’t have a husband, you have a cat. So yeah, but what
Jeremy Kellett 04:34
It’s great that I really hear a lot about parents.
Megan Cummings 04:37
Oh, Ronnie and Judy. Judy.
Jeremy Kellett 04:40
Judy, pretty regular around here.
Megan Cummings 04:43
You know what I always tell my mother, my lovely mother Judy, that she’s just a celebrity around the office. She talks about her all the time. Yeah, no,
Jeremy Kellett 04:52
lockout No. Metal.
Megan Cummings 04:54
Yeah, I’ve got drivers that will call me like how Ronnie and Judy and I’m like I didn’t know I have to tell you I wasn’t married because I’m talking about my parents. But they’re great people. They’re a great mom and dad couldn’t have asked for a better one. They’re a couple old farts. They’re a little boring. But they’re great. I love them. And I like to share their anecdotes every once in a while.
Jeremy Kellett 05:16
What’s Megan do on the weekends?
Megan Cummings 05:18
Megan enjoys her time at home. I like to deep clean the house. Spend some time with the girls at home with the cats. I’m a big flea market kind of gal. I like to read and watch movies. I like to take
Jeremy Kellett 05:35
naps and what are you doing exactly? I’m Iona. Widow. What do you do at Oakley? Okay,
Megan Cummings 05:39
so I work in recruiting. I started out as a help for Whitney, and permits licensing orientation stuff. And my main gig was in Canada. So as soon as the driver is dispatched, get his manifest ready, get him cleared across the border into Canada, do the paperwork troubleshoot where we need to. And since then, I’ve started working on processing applications for our dear kid Childers. And he’s our senior recruiter. Yeah. Oh, he’s our residency nurse. I’m just kidding. I love him. He’s great , he’s a wealth of knowledge, as he likes to say, anyways, processing applications, and I’ve recently been dabbling in some recruiting. try my hand at it just testing the waters and testing kids patients while I’m at it.
Jeremy Kellett 06:35
Everything we’re glad to have you. I’m happy to be here.
Megan Cummings 06:38
I really am. Thank
Jeremy Kellett 06:38
you. It’s gonna probably step the podcast up a notch. And people who are listening to me looking at me like it’s really gonna help Jason.
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Jeremy Kellett 07:35
Here at this On this episode, we’re here to talk to Jason Cooper. And you know, when we get owner operators in here and get to visit with them, it just I get more feedback from that than I do anything. Because I think the first one nothing’s rehearsed, you know, especially this one because Jason just walked in the door a while ago. And Dustin said, Hey, are you interested in podcasting? And Dustin said, Hey, Jeremy, he wants to do a podcast. Well, let’s go upstairs. Let’s go. So here we are. So we really don’t know what we’re going to talk about other than Jason Cooper and his story, before Oakley and while he’s at Oakley, so, appreciate you doing this. I’d love to get this stuff out to our listeners. And this is what it’s all about. So tell us a little bit about Jason cook. Well,
Jason Cooper 08:16
Again, my name is Jason Cooper. I am an Oklahoma City resident and clearly I live in Oklahoma. I came to Oakley about four and a half years ago. I am a former company driver. I won’t say that company I drove for but came here drove that company 15 years and basically I came to Oakley completely blind. It was my first kind of sort of owner operator position. And I was offered a job here. Again, completely blind, not really knowing anything about being an owner operator, but four and a half years later, I’m still here. I’m happy. I will say it is a blessing to be here. The work is steady. I’m able to provide for my family. I’m able to provide for myself. So I mean, a big family. I have a girlfriend, two kids. So again, we are able to maintain. I’ve never been worried about work while I’ve been here during the fuel crisis. I’ve never had to worry about that. I honestly can’t say anything bad about this company. I don’t know. I don’t know. But I can’t, I’m one of them. People that normally I’m pretty straightforward. And again, like we say this is completely unrehearsed but I have nothing bad to say normally I’m in the streets trying to recruit more people to come to this company. Because again, I have worked at a few different companies where the family as we say wasn’t so family oriented. And again, everywhere you know, has its ups and downs but being here, I’ve enjoyed myself and again, all I can say is it is a blessing.
Jeremy Kellett 09:48
Tell me about you deciding to be a truck driver. How’d that come about? The
Jason Cooper 09:54
The weirdest thing is I’m a little different because I actually have a bachelor’s and a master’s degree. What’s your dream? So I have a degree, a bachelor’s in criminal justice. And then I have a master’s in criminal justice management and administration. So when I was 20 years old, I wanted to hear this. Yeah, well, 20 years ago, and I won’t lie to my parents about a law firm. I was, you know, going to follow in pops, footsteps and take over the law firm. But I will say, as a kid, I never really wanted to do that. I was one of those kids. That is, parents say you can’t go to school. So I went to school and got six years worth of education. And where am I at? I’m driving a truck. Again, how
Jeremy Kellett 10:32
Did that happen? I mean,
Jason Cooper 10:34
I think it was just kind of in my blood. My grandfather, when are you still talking to your mom and dad? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, again, it was one of those things that they had to kind of, once they I think they started seeing my progression with it and seeing the love for it, and then started seeing them. I won’t lie about the money. It was cool. Yeah, you keep on driving that truck. So again, I’ve been driving the truck over 20 years now. Do
Megan Cummings 10:54
Have you ever used your degrees? No, at all? No. What kind of knowledge from your degrees? No. Or people
Jason Cooper 10:59
ask me questions every now and then and, you know, I try to do my best to answer them. But for the most part, no.
Megan Cummings 11:06
How long were you in school?
Jason Cooper 11:08
It’s been six years since I did Langston University. And I did two at the University of Central Oklahoma. Wow, do you at least have them framed?
Megan Cummings 11:18
As long as other people know,
Jason Cooper 11:19
I come every year. I still turn up on the weekends when it’s time but
Jeremy Kellett 11:22
yeah, your parents in Oklahoma City.
Jason Cooper 11:25
My mother lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And my father lives in Columbus, Ohio. Both my parents are Ohio State graduates. So take me
Jeremy Kellett 11:34
back to you getting the master’s degree. And at some point trucking was introduced to you. So
Jason Cooper 11:41
I don’t have anything bad to say about my former company. So I’ll say I drove for many key foods and Oklahoma City. Basically, while getting my degree. I actually started driving the school bus while I was at length. And that’s how I got a CDL. So from there I went to cope for only a very short time because Benny Keefe recruited me to come and run up and down a ramp and I said, I’m not going to do this. I’m in school, I’m going to be some bigshot attorney bla bla bla, but running up and down that ramp, again, started paying the bills at a very nice rate. So I stayed with them for 15 years. While I was there, I purchased a truck, because I heard about this frac sand money, you know, they put a truck, frac sand money, put the truck out there, and maybe four or five months into that it crashed. So I knew at that time I was this. Jason probably had to be about four and a half years ago. So basically, when the market crashed, I was like, Man, I gotta figure out some way to keep my truck and at the same time, it had been a key 15 years running up and down around. It was like, I’m not old, but I was old there.
Jeremy Kellett 12:48
So you didn’t do frac sand, you put somebody in it? Yes. So you bought a truck, and I bought,
Jason Cooper 12:52
and I was trying to get there for an exam and it didn’t work. So again, I thought, there’s nobody that can run this truck better than me. Now, the way I figured out about Oakley was just being in Oklahoma City. I kept seeing the trucks going up and down the road. So I’m like, hey, if there are trucks going up and down the road, I won’t say any other company names, but it doesn’t say one of those company names on it. I’m gonna give them a call. And you know, I started following a guy named Rob Holley on YouTube. And so I learned from his videos, and then I started looking at a few other drivers videos, and none of them had anything bad to say about the company. So again, I can’t talk to any drivers. I never got to talk to any, again, just watching Mr. Holly’s videos, or, you know, eventually call recruiting spoke to Mr. Dustin eagle and the rest is history. Yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 13:39
That’s a pretty good story to be able to do that. And I’m sure as you’re working at Benny, Keith, all those years. Your parents are wondering, you know, well, he got it. He got his degree, you know, but at least he knows what’s going on and he can make his own choices at that. So that’s pretty, you know, it’s a pretty interesting story.
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Jeremy Kellett 14:48
So you saw the trucks. You saw Oakley did a little bit of research. You started here. What about the process? Because you have bought another truck to come here. You got rid of that truck and then you bought one to come so
Jason Cooper 15:03
The truck that was in the oilfield is the one I’m currently in. Okay. And what is it? It is a 2016 Freightliner Cascadia. Of course I put a little work into it now. So it was a good looking truck. Oh yeah, dependable. I’m putting in new motoring. So yes. Oh, Ronnie.
Jeremy Kellett 15:20
So that process of becoming an owner operator and coming Oakley, how was that process,
Jason Cooper 15:26
your process was pretty smooth. I called Mr. Eagle, he gave me a start date. And again, me leaving a job, I’d say many keyfobs making about $135,000 a year. So that’s pretty good money for everyday life, you know, and, and at home everyday. So again, I spoke to him about the pay. And again, I didn’t know what I was getting myself into. Because I was scared to leave my job where you know, I knew a check was gonna be coming every week versus now I’m gonna have to get out here and hustle for my money. So again, that’s kind of a fear for me, I should say, because again, I did not know very much about the owner operator game. And even though I drove at a company, I didn’t really understand the safety side of it either. And, you know, by coming here, as I said, I’ve been here four and a half years. Again, I’ve been educated on a lot of things, just from our safety department here and helping me to become a better driver.
Megan Cummings 16:17
What are the major differences that you’ve seen between company driving and being an owner operator. As far as the daily processes, though, is everything pretty much the same after you get all that? Yeah,
Jason Cooper 16:29
but the process is still the same. But it’s different when you own your own truck again, because you know, you take a little bit more pride in doing your pre-trip post-trip inspections, again, and then again, I’m a representation of myself, but I’m also a representation of Oakley. So just keep my equipment looking good. And I know here, they liked the equipment to look good. But again, that’s also taking pride in your equipment. Just the rule that they have here when keeping your trucks and stuff clean, but just taking more pride in something that you own. And it’s
Jeremy Kellett 16:58
a step of having your own business, you know, making that step of you know, not working for somebody else, but making some decisions on your own and I commend an owner operator that’s pretty rewarding. Yes. Oakley Trucking is a 100% Owner Operator company. We specialize in Hopper bottom in dump and pneumatic drivers. We provide the trailer free of charge and you provide the truck. We have a large customer base that reaches the whole United States as well as parts of Canada. Our owner operators live anywhere from Texas to North Carolina to Pennsylvania to Wisconsin and everywhere in between and we get them home weekends. We take it seriously when you join Oakley trucking because we need you to be successful. Oakley offers great benefits and competitive mileage pay. So you know that when your wheels are turning, you’re generating money, no matter if you’re loaded or empty. We understand that you want to make a good living and that you make our living. We only take on independent contractors and to be honest with you, we are very particular on who we lease on. You must have a good driving record. Good work history, clean, dependable truck. So if you’re interested in Oakley trucking or just want some more information, you can go to Oakley trucking.com. Listen to our weekly podcast, the Oakley podcast and subscribe to our YouTube channel. Four and a half years at Oakley. I mean, you’ve been through the seasons. You’ve been through some ups and downs, been through some ups and downs. I mean, what do you think’s one of the best things about this company, you’ve seen it used by foreigners?
Jason Cooper 18:31
The worst is stability, I think it is still the best thing because even you know, even the things that I follow via social media that when other owner operators were saying they didn’t have any work and were struggling with fuel, I can definitely say here we did have stable work. And we did have, you know, a fuel surcharge. And it’s great that I was able to keep my business afloat. And I don’t know if it’s appropriate to say but during the pandemic, I really wasn’t worried about anything. We had stable work. We came every day. My dispatcher was calling me. You know, he’s like, Hey, you ready to go and you know, it’s okay and everybody else is struggling with work but being here at Oakley, we have stable work and I know everywhere does not have stable work. We all know that. In this industry right now in the trucking period, a lot of companies are going out of business. So being here, I can definitely say the stability in the work is phenomenal. So
Jeremy Kellett 19:22
a question that maybe listeners out there thinking then why would somebody quit Oakley? Which is a good question. Yeah. Hello everybody.
Jason Cooper 19:30
Okay, well, I mean a lot of people have their own opinions and want you know, they want to be the balls I get. But again when it comes to knowing about the stability of work, and again, I actually do own another truck that I run out of my own numbers. Everybody understands running under somebody’s authority, that gang but again, I feel like the drivers that quit here are again just wanting to parse and just have their own equipment, which there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that but for me Want to stay here because our team downstairs handles all of our paperwork. So it’s like I’m never late on anything I’m never behind on, if there is anything, you know, they keep our paperwork together. And for me, I’m saying that helps me because again, I don’t have to keep up with that stuff. And when my other truck, you know, I do have a team that keeps up the decK cost me money to have to pay them to make sure that everything is in compliance. And
Jeremy Kellett 20:23
see that’s interesting to me because a businessman that’s got a second truck, got a driver in it, and under his own authority, so he’s the boss of you know, but all but the man that owns the company is here you’re working in Ohio, I’m
Jason Cooper 20:37
here because I am making it stable. My other truck is not stable. I’m not gonna sit here in front or lie is not stable. Yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 20:48
Well, that’s a testament to you. Because, I mean, you have to work. You know, it’s not just given to you. I mean, you know, you’ve been an owner operator of the year here at Oakley. Yes,
Jason Cooper 20:59
sir. My second year here, I was the man of the year.
Jeremy Kellett 21:02
And what do you think? What do you think got that for
Jason Cooper 21:04
We just work hard and have a good work ethic. And my dispatcher’s name is Seth. He’s over at our KATUSA branch. I mean, just keeping me moving and keeping me motivated. You know, my, that’s normally really the only person I really speak to, but he’s been a great motivational part of me being instrumental in getting that award. And I appreciate him to
Megan Cummings 21:23
go ahead and your whole four years. Yes.
Jason Cooper 21:26
And I’ve actually been thinking about switching divisions. And I’ll say, Well, if I can’t take Ceph with me, and we’re pretty good. We gotta help you. Let’s think I’m a couple years old. So I’m in a big brother-little brother relationship with him. But he’s a good guy. You get home on the weekends. I go home every weekend. Really? Yes.
Jeremy Kellett 21:43
What do you do on the weekends, you? Kids? I’m
Jason Cooper 21:47
in the car. So of course deal with the family. But I like to tinker with my car. Where? Yup, I have a 392 charger, but it is completely customized. So I go to car shows. I like to do anything that is related to going to a bar, watching games, watching TVs, and fighting. There’s a fight tomorrow. So I’ll probably be at the local bar to watch that one. But kind of just regular boxing. Oh, yeah. So I like to watch UFC boxing. And outside of that, you know, I spend time with my family. I do get home, not just on the weekends, but we do have, you know, some runs that go back to Oklahoma City. So I’m able to help you. Yeah, I’m in a good spot. I can’t say it’s gonna work for everybody. But with me being where I’m at. I do get to see my family quite often.
Megan Cummings 22:30
Do you find you have a better work life balance? Or is it about the same as where you were before?
Jason Cooper 22:35
I’ll say that clearly being at home every day is better. But again, coming from anybody that ran up and down one of the ramps knows you’re gonna come home and go to sleep. So I will say my work life here is better. Because when I come home, now I’m able to get out and play with the kids or, you know, yeah, true enough, I may have driven all day, but my knees aren’t blown or my back’s not hurt. And so I’m able to just come home, spend time with my family and then get back to work.
Jeremy Kellett 23:01
What do you think if you had an opportunity, this is an opportunity to tell the general public, we might have some people from the general public listen to our podcast? Absolutely. You know, what would you like to tell them about being a truck driver? People that don’t know about trucking? Maybe whether you’re going down the highway or you know, the stigma that truck drivers have and trucking companies? Would you like to tell those people
Jason Cooper 23:27
I will say, you know, if you’re looking for work you are considering you know, coming to a company like Oakley Of course, I think we require what, 250,000 Miles two years over the road?
Jeremy Kellett 23:37
No, but I’m talking about somebody driving a car beside you down the interstate. But what do they need to know about a truck driver? Compared to what the billboard says the commercial says? What do you know? The guy that doesn’t know trucking? Which are most people driving down the interstate? What do you want to tell them? To help them understand more about a truck driver instead of the bad image?
Jason Cooper 24:00
I guess the world makes truck drivers go round. So are you You know, again, with the world going around you basically you need us and we need you to consume those goods so that we can continue to haul so but that took just the everyday person again, going down the road just you know, we regular people to just trying to get home to our families. Don’t cut us off. You know, don’t slam on your brakes in front of us or anything again, yeah, we may accidentally pull over some time in front of you. But it’s not to not because we’re trying to hurt you or anything like that. It’s more so you know, hey, it was an accident, but most of your drivers are friendly. We were truck drivers overall, we are good people and we will stop to help you if we could, but sometimes we own that load and we gotta get that money. So I’m thinking about driving past you but I do call the police and say Hey, I saw a family on the side of the road. Let’s good overall, most of my colleagues drive trucks, good families, men and women. We got a few women out here, but good family oriented people that are just trying to make a living and
Jeremy Kellett 25:00
i couldn’t say it better myself. What else?
Megan Cummings 25:06
So if you weren’t behind the wheel, how long have you been driving in total? Did you say 20 years? 20 years. Okay. So take us back 20 years, degrees not considered. If you weren’t driving a truck, what do you think you would have ended up doing?
Jason Cooper 25:21
Honestly, I probably would have been an airplane pilot. Really? Yeah. So before I was gonna go to college, there was a school in Tulsa, Oklahoma called spark school aeronautics. Yeah, I would probably be an airplane pilot. Wow. Okay. Yes, do cam but I like to try it. You know, it’s still stuff going on with technology and planes. I think I’ll stay on the ground.
Jeremy Kellett 25:42
Very good conversation, man. proud to have you as Oakley owner operator.
Jason Cooper 25:48
Hey, I’m glad to be here.
Jeremy Kellett 25:49
I mean, I guess you’ve made some good friends here. Oh, yeah.
Jason Cooper 25:52
Plenty of good friends. I recruited a couple of good friends to work here with me. So yeah, my Yeah, me and my being a key that I came from there. I had. Let’s see. I had one come from Benny Keefe and then two other guys. I recruited them from other food companies, actually. And they again had the are
Jeremy Kellett 26:07
have they been? Are they successful? Yeah,
Jason Cooper 26:09
They are all successful. Good. So I think since I’ve been here I’ve recruited about I’ll say five and four steel here. Awesome. Yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 26:19
I mean, that that proves it
Jason Cooper 26:21
says a lot. And they are still here and again, we were regular, everyday people that were at home, but we all made the jump and came here and I don’t think any of them would have anything bad to say. Anything
Jeremy Kellett 26:31
else you’d like to add? Megan, you good?
Megan Cummings 26:34
I believe so. So it’s always a pleasure. Mr. Cooper, nice to finally meet you face to face. I
Jason Cooper 26:38
I know my name. But now I know the face too. So hey,
Jeremy Kellett 26:42
man, now you get to. If you watch our podcast every week, you’re gonna get to see it more and more.
Megan Cummings 26:47
You know, you get to share your favorite thing to do when I’m on a podcast is do a mass group text and send it out but like, Hey, I saw this was top trending on YouTube. You guys should check it out. Yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 27:01
What’s running Judy girl, so
Megan Cummings 27:02
I’m gonna call him after I’m done. And Tom, they have to watch the podcast.
Jeremy Kellett 27:10
Hey, appreciate you being here. Appreciate you answering my questions. And it’s really just off the cuff stuff. You’re doing it and thank you to the people who watch this. They know what kind of owner operators Oakley has. And that’s it right there with Mr. Jason Cooper from Oklahoma City. Thanks, everybody for listening to the Oakley podcast every week, man. We appreciate all you listeners. We appreciate all the comments. Please share it with some people, subscribe, hit the thumbs up that helps us get it out to other people and get in front of them. And you know, what we want in front of every truck driver in the United States is our goal. And we got a ways to go. But I appreciate that. I think we just topped 30,000 subscribers out of 31,000 subscribers on YouTube, which is fantastic. So that tells us that we’re doing a little something right here. But we’re gonna continue on and try to give you all some good content. We appreciate you watching. We’ll talk to you next week. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Oakley podcast: trucking, business, and family. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to rate or review the show on the podcast platform of your choice and share it with a friend. We love hearing from our audience, so if you’ve got a question, comment, or just want to say hello, head over to our website, theoakleypodcast.com, and click the “leave a comment” button. We’ll get you a response soon and may even share some of the best ones here on the show. We’ll be back with a fresh episode very soon. Thanks for listening.