188: Breaking the Silence: Helping Drivers Navigate the Road to Mental Wellness with Dr. Andreya Reed

This week on the Oakley Podcast, host Jeremy Kellett chats with Dr. Andreya Reed, a Psychiatrist at R&H Wellness. During the episode, Jeremy and Andreya delve into mental health challenges faced by truck drivers. They discuss the effects of isolation, the stigma of seeking help, and the connection between mental and physical health. Dr. Reed shares insights from her psychiatric practice and personal experiences, emphasizing the importance of movement and addressing mental health issues. The episode also highlights the impact of the pandemic on mental well-being, strategies for managing stress in everyday life, statistical data on the rise of mental health and suicide, and more. 

Key topics in today’s conversation include:

  • Andreya’s background and passion for caring for her patients (1:27)
  • The importance of mental health (3:00)
  • The impact of the pandemic on mental health (6:08)
  • Recognition of mental health issues (8:29)
  • Seeking help and mental health services (12:34)
  • Challenges faced by truck drivers (14:08)
  • The importance of physical activity (16:47)
  • Recognizing the need for mental health support (20:23)
  • Recognizing signs of mental health issues (20:32)
  • Strategies for managing stress and anxiety (24:29)
  • Talk therapy and medication management (28:04)
  • Realities of medication for mental health (30:27)
  • Recognizing mental health issues in teenagers (33:05)
  • Importance of listening in addressing mental health (36:00)
  • Final thoughts and connecting with Dr. Reed (37:12)

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Andreya Reed  00:00

A lot of people don’t think about our brains as being connected to the rest of it, like our mental health is our brain and it’s our whole health care. If you have something going on in regards to mental health, a lot of times it can, it can affect your physical health, your heart, your stomach, a lot of people when they get nervous, they notice butterflies in their tummy and stuff like that. That’s just the soft side. As I like to say, if you don’t sit down, you’ll be sat down. And so if you don’t take care of your mental health, you’ll say yes, you’ll notice yourself getting sat down.

Jeremy Kellett  00:47

Welcome to the Oakley podcast, trucking, business, and family. This show is brought to you by Oakley Trucking, headquartered in North Little Rock, Arkansas. The purpose of this podcast is to communicate with Oakley owner-operators and their families by giving them up-to-date information concerning Oakley Trucking and the trucking industry. From business advice to safety updates to success stories. Also to give an inside to outside truck drivers that might be interested in joining the Oakley family. Hi, this is Jeremy Kellett, Director of Recruiting here at Oakley Trucking and I’m your host for this podcast. This is the Oakley Podcast trucking, business and family. Once again, we bring you some good content every week, we try to find the best stuff we can for you guys out there, our owner operators and their families to be successful, help them and make good decisions in life and business. And just hope we do what we can to help you do that, you know, we’ve had a lot of good episodes in the past that I encourage everybody to go listen to, we’ve got some great ones coming up in the future ahead of us. So, you know, take your time and check them out, go back and listen to them. And they really got some good, helpful information in Oh man, I’ve got another one this week. You know, matter of fact, it’s gonna be good that you go back and listen to I’ve had a lot of our listeners actually tell me, especially recruits coming in, they go back and watch every one of them. Oh, my man, that takes a lot of time. But they said it really helps them make decisions about Oakley because they’ve learned so much from our weekly podcast. So you know, I just encourage you to do that also encourage you, if there’s certain topics you want to hear, I’ll do my best to do some research, and try to find the right people to help give some good information on because I don’t want to just tell you my opinion, because I’m not a professional. You know, I have opinions all you know in the office all the time we talk about it. But you know, I want to make sure that I give you guys good information so you can make decisions. So today we’re talking about mental health amongst truck drivers as something that you know. We’ve talked about doing this for a while, but I couldn’t find the right person to do it because I don’t want to do some research. And you find articles and you find people that talk about it. But I wanted a professional expert. And so I got Dr. Andrea Reed joining me today. And she’s an expert on mental health and we’re going to talk about some things that you know, that are associated with truck driving and isolation and, and just mental health and anxiety and things that that you might have that you don’t even recognize, and we’re gonna get her professional opinion on what’s going on how to treat it, how to recognize it. So it’s gonna be a great episode we’re gonna get started in right now,

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Jeremy Kellett  04:26

Okay, Dr. Reid, how are you today? I am pretty good.

Andreya Reed  04:29

How about you?

Jeremy Kellett  04:30

Great now tell us over on. But thanks for joining me today. I know. We hadn’t met till today but we’ve talked on the phone a couple times and did some research on you and your clinic that you have. And you know it’s something that we want to find a great professional and you know, everything I found about you was awesome. So that’s why I should come over here and I really appreciate you doing it. Tell my listeners a little bit about your background.

Andreya Reed  04:59

Yeah Ray. Thank you. So I was born and raised here in Arkansas, from Malvern to pretty close to hot springs. If you’re not familiar with small towns, the brick capital of the world is what we call ourselves because of Acme brick there. But anyway, I graduated high school there. And then I went to UCA for undergraduate, I got a bachelor’s in biology. And then after that, I went straight to med school at UAMS. And here in Little Rock, I did my training after med school in psychiatry, and completed that residency. And I’ve worked at a few places. So far in my career, I first started working with veterans at the VA, and I was at the VA hospital for a few years. And our transition to what’s considered a semi private practice clinic may actually allow you to, you know, work pretty autonomously, and then have some support staff there. So I worked there for a few years. And then I struck out on my own with my business partner, Dr. Renee Henderson. And we opened a REIT in Henderson wellness in September of 2021. And that was quite the time to open up our practice, it was in the middle of the pandemic. And I think that it was a great time for us because we could focus solely on work. But it was also very helpful in the fact of the great need for psychiatrists and mental health care in general during that time. And along the way, as we progressed, you’ve seen quite a few patients so far.

Jeremy Kellett  06:35

Yeah, it seemed like there was a focus at the time when, I guess, rightfully so, when the pandemic hit and put a lot of people in isolation, which created more mental health problems.

Andreya Reed  06:49

Absolutely. So when we all have the wherewithal to stay at home orders, kids were at home, husbands and wives or at home, you know, parents were at home. And so you saw a shift in the dynamic of the time we spent with each other and the time that we spent alone. And so, that progressed into, you know, really sitting in our feelings. That’s one thing that we like to talk about as a psychiatrist is what it feels like to just sit and feel what you’re feeling. And a lot of people noticed stress and anxiety and worry, and we worry about their physical health and worry about their financial health. And that created a kind of a hotbed for depression and anxiety to develop

Jeremy Kellett  07:35

Aussie. So it just opened it up more.

Andreya Reed  07:39

Absolutely. For some people, depression, anxiety, worry, sleep problems were already present, but low grades. All right. And then for some there were quite a few people that weren’t present. And it just developed during that time. And so we saw a lot of different types of patients, even if they have the same type of what we call generalized anxiety disorder, which is a type of anxiety, you know, they might meet the diagnostic criteria for it. But the way that it was shaped and formed for everyone was different, depending upon the settings that they were in. It’s almost

Jeremy Kellett  08:17

sodas, I mean, just about everybody has some sort of disorder. I know the people I work with. I’m just kidding.

Andreya Reed  08:29

Now, we all like to diagnose our family and friends. We all think they come and go, I don’t know what it is. But they’re you know, we don’t like to say this or think crazy. Yeah, and

Jeremy Kellett  08:40

What do they say if you don’t think there’s a crazy one in the family?

Andreya Reed  08:46

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So, I think that we all have some type of quirks, right? The we meet the need for care for the quirks that we have, that’s debatable, you know, if the problem the, the need for care is if it is affecting your functioning, if you notice that your relationships are going downhill or you can’t get out of the bed, or you are missing work are blowing up at work. That’s what we need to start thinking. Do we have something else going on here? That’s not just a quirk.

Jeremy Kellett  09:21

That’s some of the signs. Yeah, that was one of the questions I was gonna ask, you know, what are some of the ways you recognize it? Yeah, that’s some of them. How important is it to have good mental health? Well,

Andreya Reed  09:34

it’s a part of our bodies. A lot of people don’t think about our brains being connected to the rest of it. Like our mental health is our brain and it’s our whole health care. If you have something going on in regards to mental health, a lot of times it can affect your physical health, your heart, your stomach. A lot of people when they get nervous, they notice butterflies in your tummy and stuff like that. That’s just the soft side. so it can affect your whole health. And then, as I like to say, if you don’t sit down, you’ll be sat down. And so if you don’t take care of your mental health, you’ll say, yes, you’ll notice yourself getting sat down. Yeah,

Jeremy Kellett  10:14

That’s a good, good way to put it. Yeah. But it’ll take a toll eventually, if you don’t, if you don’t have good mental health, for sure. And he can affect a lot of things every day, I’m assuming what you’re doing and your daily routine. Yeah, in the brain. I mean, to me, but I mean, the complex of a brain is crazy, you know, the way it affects the rest of your body. And that’s what you study all the time, I guess it affects everything.

Andreya Reed  10:42

We have about 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day. Wow. And so that is how much our brain is working on that level, not to think about how it maintains the rest of our body, it tells the rest of our body what to do. And so it is very important that we maintain good mental health, just on that front alone, you know, not every one of those thoughts are going to be life changing or make a defining moment for you. But we do want to make sure that they’re more positive than negative, because a lot of times we can get stuck in that negative and spin out of control.

Jeremy Kellett  11:20

Yeah. And you see people out there that are constantly negative. We talked about that before. You just see people that are happy. They’re just so negative all the time. And I’m like I couldn’t get away from this person. Because next thing I know I’m negative. Yes. And then you know, me and my wife call that getting in the ditch the ditch with somebody.

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Jeremy Kellett  12:34

So one question, have you seen an increase in people seeking mental health services in the last couple of years? Which kind of answered it Yes, Elena is going to continue, though,

Andreya Reed  12:43

However, I see it continuing because one thing that the pandemic did, in a good way, was show that mental health care is needed. I think that the stigma in a lot of ways has decreased. And so with that being said, a lot of people who were suffering in silence, are now seeking care, and I am hopeful that will continue. So that we do have an improvement, seeking care doesn’t mean that you’re going to stay here or that you’re going to have to be on appeal for the rest of your life or in talk therapy for the rest of your life. It really is a hope to get you to a better place so that you can live a better life. Yeah,

Jeremy Kellett  13:26

that that’s something that I’ve noticed has changed over the last few years is, you know, mental health was a bad term. You know, somebody’s got some mental health issues,

Andreya Reed  13:39

you know, raise an eyebrow,

Jeremy Kellett  13:41

you raise an eyebrow? And now it is it, you know, it’s brought to the forefront. Now, that’s not a bad thing. You know, over the last few years, you’ve seen that to where mental health is something now that needs to be recognized. And it can and something can be done about it. Because, you know, before that you would think they’ve got some mental health issues where they’re gonna always have they always have had it, they’re always gonna be nuts. And that’s not the case. That’s not the case. Are you? Are you familiar with specific stressors and challenges that truck drivers face on the job? You know, such as long hours isolation and, and the impact of mental health?

Andreya Reed  14:20

Well, yes, I am. And I forgot to tell you this earlier. I have some truck drivers in my family. Really? Yes. And so. So there’s one in particular, he’s my cousin and we kind of grew up like siblings. And he is away. He was away from home quite a bit. And that took a great toll on him and his family. And so in ways that he was missing volleyball games, football games, and that really was a parent for how he felt, you know, and how’s kiddos felt and how his wife felt, you know, and the that longing, and then that the also there’s some feelings of guilt they can come up with it can create sadness, you know, you’re in when you’re in isolation, you only sit with your thoughts is you the road? And the thoughts. And so that can really span if that makes sense.

Jeremy Kellett  15:24

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because when you don’t have that communication, you know, you can, like you said 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day, I want to say a truck driver has doubled that. Because they don’t have anybody to talk to me, but they do get on the phone. But, you know, it definitely can be stressful for a truck driver, when it comes to that, and I mean, it’s, I don’t know, I don’t know how they do it, I mean, it. To me, what they do is amazing, because I have to communicate with people all the time. And those guys can get in the truck this morning and drive to, you know, Lana, Georgia, and be there today. And the whole time, there’s nobody in the truck with nobody

Andreya Reed  16:13

there. Yeah. And another stress or another unique situation for truck drivers is, you know, we need movement in order to feel better and to make our muscles feel good. It helps our brain to clear itself out, you know, whether that’s walking or going to the gym. And when you work long hours as a truck driver, you don’t have that availability and you know, mid shift when you get up in the morning. And so that also, I feel is unique to to drivers

Jeremy Kellett  16:44

encourage physical activity.

Andreya Reed  16:46


Jeremy Kellett  16:47

Is that something you recommend a lot to your patients?

Andreya Reed  16:49

If you are alive, I’m going to encourage you to do something. Now that’s chair yoga with a youtube video and you are moving your arms. Okay, you’ve gotten something done. If that’s where you can be, that’s where you can be. But it is absolutely important for us to have some type of movement in order for our brains to work effectively.

Jeremy Kellett  17:15

A little sidetrack. I was reading on your website. You do half marathons I do

Andreya Reed  17:22

I have done three so far. I’ve done a lot of 10 k’s and five case runner

Jeremy Kellett  17:27

Yes. Walk running. Does that help your brain or your mind? Yes.

Andreya Reed  17:32

So there’s, you know, what we call there’s hormones and there’s hormones specific to brains it’s what we call neurotransmitters. And when we exercise those neurotransmitters endorphins being one of them increases significantly in that helps us to feel better . It’s almost like a happy hormone. So the more we move in appropriateness now I’m not asking you to go you know live too heavy for three hours unless that’s your jam and you were safe with it then okay? But doing a good amount of exercise helps those hormones to increase which will then help your mood and helping your mood and they’ll help your whole body okay,

Jeremy Kellett  18:15

so the only problem I have with it is what are you looking at me like for the only problem I have? Why can’t I feel like that before I start because I can’t get past the point of nano says I don’t feel like going to exercise I just don’t feel like it you know but boy once I do I feel great went last night I’ve worked out that you know routine I’d never done before and I was like man, I feel fantastic. feel like you’ve accomplished nothing but before I went I was like every excuse I could come up with I was not gonna but I made myself go

Andreya Reed  18:52

I think that is probably something everyone struggles with. Sometimes I don’t think I don’t have the right thoughts and excuses. So yeah,

Jeremy Kellett  19:04

I’ve done that. Matter of fact, I didn’t have the right socks and I went ahead and went out there and my socks I wore to the office and looked like one of those dads out there. You know, and I was part of it. I was like I’ve crossed that line now. I’m that guy out here working out in his dress socks. Anyway, Oakley Trucking is a 100% Owner Operator company. We specialize in Hopper bottom in dump and pneumatic drivers. We provide the trailer free of charge and you provide the truck. We have a large customer base that reaches the whole United States as well as parts of Canada. Our owner operators live anywhere from Texas to North Carolina to Pennsylvania to Wisconsin and everywhere in between and we get them home weekends. We take it seriously when you join Oakley trucking because we need you to be successful. Oakley offers great benefits and competitive mileage pay so you know that when your wheels are turning, you’re generating money no matter if you’re loaded or empty. We understand that you want to make a good living And that you make our living, we only take on independent contractors and to be honest with you, we are very particular on who we lease on, you must have a good driving record, good work history and clean, dependable truck. So if you’re interested in Oakley trucking or just wants more information, you can go to Oakley trucking.com. Listen to our weekly podcast, the Oakley podcast and subscribe to our YouTube channel. Okay, so what do you think are some of the signs that a truck driver may need to recognize that they need to seek some kind of mental health? I

Andreya Reed  20:32

I think one of the most important ones is if you notice yourself being more tired. So we all have this, like a baseline level of energy. And we kind of can check ourselves and say, Uh huh, I am just not on my game today, you know, you’re feeling tired, you’re not concentrating and focusing as well. So that’s one of the softer sides. And then when things like my appetite is changing, I’m not hungry, or you’re noticing yourself enough house and Hall, you know, just like you can’t get enough. Granted, there are some times in the seasons, where we typically will eat a little bit more, and it’s celebrations and all that stuff. But if you notice your energy is changing, your appetite is decreasing. And for a lot of people, irritability will start to pop up, and you just wait, gaining weight, losing weight, and then you just snap, you know, you talk to your family and friends and they’ll say, you know, I’m getting a phone call from you. Yeah. So I’m wrong, it’s wrong. Now these things start to pop up, those are the softer ones, we get really scared. When you start to feel hopeless. It’s like, you know what, I just can’t win without losing. And that just continues to cycle through. And then when the thoughts of maybe I shouldn’t be here anymore, kind of going towards suicidal thoughts. You know, my family is better off without me. Those are the types of thoughts where we’re like, we need to get you pretty. So, really? So is

Jeremy Kellett  22:09

that some of the things that you asked initially, if you know your first time patients or something that you have a phone call, or they come in? I mean, you try to evaluate how bad the situation is? Yes.

Andreya Reed  22:21

Now, that won’t be my first question because I run through folks. But, you know, after you know, getting to know you and getting to know what your daily routine is like and getting to know some things about who you are as a person, we do ask about safety concerns. That’s what we call safety. You know, asked me about hopelessness, asking about if you feel like a burden, or if you feel really guilty for the decisions you’re making in life, and then we transitioned on to do you feel like you’re better? No, you wouldn’t feel like you shouldn’t be here suicidal thoughts. We tried to get a good Whole Health Assessment during your first appointment. And then we go on to figuring out how we can best help you to feel better. What

Jeremy Kellett  23:06

are some of them so if there’re some truck drivers out there, and don’t have to be truck drivers? We’re seeing anybody in general that are having some of these thoughts and they’re trying to evaluate themselves? Well, do I need to talk to somebody or not? I’m a little embarrassed to admit it. I don’t, you know, what would you tell somebody that’s thinking that

Andreya Reed  23:28

If you’ve questioned if you need to talk to someone who did the hatching and she did the hatching and she did that thought of, if I could just talk to someone to figure out what’s going on? You know, or I don’t know what’s going on with me. Those are good indicators that you should see someone and that someone if you’re concerned about seeing the psychiatrist because a lot of people are you know, that first appointment can be very scary. You can reach out to your primary care doctor and get an initial assessment or just a checkup with them and figure out do you need to go a step further and see in a mental health professional,

Jeremy Kellett  24:05

let some of the one of the questions what are some of the strategies you recommend to help a truck driver manage stress and anxiety is there other than, you know, you’re talking about need to move, you know, the certain all day drive and they need to take time out to move then helps with stress and anxiety, any other things that they could do to help with? Yes,

Andreya Reed  24:30

I am all about doing absolutely everything that we can. Sometimes that includes medications, but a lot of times I will try to do all of the other things I do. So we’ve already talked about talking with family and friends, and having that connection is very important. So that social connection is important. Moving our bodies is important. I’m a millennial, okay, so I like podcasts, and I like apps and things of that nature. And so listening to certain Podcasts can be very helpful and inspirational for a lot of folks, Oakley podcasts Come on now. And then there are apps that help you to manage stress and anxiety and sadness. And one in particular that’s very popular is the calm app in the desert. So that when they have certain types of meditation that you can listen to, and there can be little modules and games that you can do on there as well to help with getting yourself out of the fog that you might be. And there’s another one called Headspace very similar to a calm app. And both of them. I think both of them are paid apps, there’s a third one called Insight Timer. That’s my favorite because it’s free. And it also has meditations and things of their own. I’d say the most comprehensive one, though, is headspace. Yes, that’s a really good one. And if you are, for me, in particular, because I have anxiety myself, sometimes I can’t turn my thoughts off at night. It is just a run in and about my to- do list and what I should have done that day and all that stuff. It has meditations on there, and little modules you can do at bedtime to calm those thoughts down and to get you to better quality sleep. That’s

Jeremy Kellett  26:21

good. Yeah. I mean, because, you know, minds get to race and then you can’t go to sleep. No.

Andreya Reed  26:27

Like, I’m Jackie Joyner Kersee in my brain.

Jeremy Kellett  26:31

Yeah, you know, what helps me more than anything? If I sit in a sauna. That’s good. I tell you that I just love sitting in the sauna and sweating it out. Just feels so much better. Yeah, come out of that. So release. Yeah. So you might recommend that patients you know, George, well, I did have a question about talk therapy. I saw that on your website, which will go ahead and start talking about your business too. Okay. And your practice and some services you offer? How people get in touch with you. And I saw that talk therapy there. And I thought, when I saw that on your website, I thought, well, that might be, you know, the thing a truck driver could do? Yes,

Andreya Reed  27:15

absolutely. So our clinic is in Henderson wellness, we’re located in North Little Rock, Arkansas, we also have another location in Bentonville, Arkansas, where Dr. Henderson primarily works. myself and Dr. Smith, who joined us a couple of months ago, is in Northfield, our app. So we do in person appointments and telehealth. So if you need to do a zoom or video call, we have that availability as well

Jeremy Kellett  27:43

need to be referred by their primary care. Some

Andreya Reed  27:47

insurances require their patients to be referred by primary care, some, you can just self refer, you can just give us a phone call. And if that’s the case, or if any, right because we’ll help you to figure out if you are required to have a PCP referral. But you can just give us a phone call. And our phone number is 844-474-9355. Just give us a phone call. And we can help you to figure out which way to go in regards to insurance and stuff like that. And now what we do, okay, we do a lot of talking, right? That’s what we do. Now, we do what we call talk therapy. We also do mid management. So talk therapy, the true term is psychotherapy, that is having assessments and conversations that allow you to strategize and cope with the things that you have going on in your life. So your therapist says to himself, I’m also a psychiatrist. So we listen to you, right? We hear what stressors are going on in your life. And we help you to see what the blind spots might be. We help you to figure out how to cope better with whatever may be going on in your life. And a lot of times we recommend lifestyle modifications, right? Those lifestyle modifications are some of the things that we talked about movement, and using apps and things of that nature, or having a better diet. We don’t talk about the foods that we eat and the effects that it can have on our brain and on the rest of our bodies. And so that’s really what talk therapy is, in a nutshell. There’s special types of talk therapy, EMDR, and CBT, and DBT, all of these acronyms, and those are specific specialist specific and work in certain ways for certain types of treatment modalities. So that’s that. And in med management, simply managing with medications there are a lot of different types of medicines that we utilize to be helpful in helping you feel better. What we try to do, over reading Henderson, is to treat choices as the safest and most effective, because we want to think about you now. And in the long term, and what your job is. Now, there’s a lot of restrictions on what types of medicines a particular person can have, truck drivers in particular, there’s some that may not be conducive to your work environment. And so we try to make sure that we have a strategy that’s helpful for you in the whole clinical picture. And,

Jeremy Kellett  30:27

You know, I can just imagine some people probably just want medicine, this gives me something to fix it all. And you know, that’s not the answer.

Andreya Reed  30:39

That’s not the answer. And I try to tell them when I get this question, because I get it a lot. I say, you know, if I had it, I promise you, it wouldn’t be me sitting here talking to you.

Jeremy Kellett  30:51

Be rich. Yeah, it would probably not need you if we were that.

Andreya Reed  30:56

Exactly. But unfortunately, there’s no magic pill. Is there a pill that can help you feel better? Absolutely. Okay, figure out what that is. But appeal to doing all of the work and snapping your fingers and you feel better tomorrow? Unfortunately, that doesn’t exist didn’t

Jeremy Kellett  31:14

exist. No, I think, Dr. Reid, a lot of people just gotta first admit it. I mean, oh, yeah. Is that one of the biggest steps? You know, just admit that, you know, I can’t do this on my own, because men are, and you have a lot of men who are patient. I have more women patients, I mean, patients, because I mean, we’re stubborn, we’re more stubborn than women, probably,

Andreya Reed  31:36

I will say that I get a lot of my male patients from my female patients who have referred them to seek me. Yeah. And so they may be their husbands, their sons, their fathers, their friends, they’ll say, well, so Ansel told me to come over, because they’ve been seeing me for a while. And I do recognize that some things are going on that I need to talk to you about and because they trust your outcome. And so sometimes it does take one person to go for the other person to go as well. Do you do couples? I don’t do couples, I do refer those types of strategies out. Because I don’t think that I’m the best person. And I think that we all need to recognize what our limitations are. My in couples and specific types of therapy, like the EMDR, that I briefly briefly spoke about, those are specialty types of training. And I refer to those people out to those that have that training. Yeah, you know, it’s

Jeremy Kellett  32:37

We’ve actually had a good time here talking about this, but it’s a serious illness. It’s, it’s serious, that needs to be recognized. And people were out there dealing with it every day. And you know, what, it’s, I just hate the thought of somebody thinking that they are worthless, absolutely. No, and don’t need to be here. And oh, and you can get into that. I’m assuming you can get into them because our suicide rates higher than they’ve ever been? Absolutely,

Andreya Reed  33:05

absolutely. And the if we think about our teens, in particular, suicide has moved up a notch on the top mortality causes for teens, it’s moved up, I believe it’s in the second slot now. And that’s, that’s very unfortunate, because these are our kiddos, these are our babies. Well, it’s to do with social media, a lot of it has to do with social media, the changes in with school and with the pandemic, and not having that type of in person socialization, and then being in quite a bit of isolation. And like you said, social media and cyberbullying is a big problem. And that can truly exacerbate

Jeremy Kellett  33:52

What does a parent need to look for, and their teenager to recognize some of that.

Andreya Reed  33:58

So it can be a little difficult, because as we go through puberty, our moods and our activities shift, you know, slamming of the doors, irritability and all that jazz. But if you recognize, because I see this, oftentimes, it’s like, you know, my kid is moody. But she or she has really changed. They don’t come out of their office or their bed at all. You know, they go to school, or some of them may be in online schooling. And so they will sit in their bed and they’ll have the streaming on, but they don’t do anything else, or they’re not eating at all. And we know teens like that, right? And so you notice these shifts in your kids are just extreme irritability. That’s when a parent should be seeking help for our kiddos.

Jeremy Kellett  34:48

How do they do that? They try to, I mean, I know the parents you try to intervene with the teenager and then that turns into a fight but I mean, man How do they give? If a parent is feeling hopeless out there? Getting like no other team needs help? What would you suggest?

Andreya Reed  35:08

This is going to be the most basic thing. And I would say, just sitting in the room with them, and saying, Hey, I miss you miss the connection that we used to have? Is there any way that I can be helpful to you? What’s going on? Simply those kinds of questions? Are those statements true, because a lot of times, as parents as adults, we have a level of vulnerability that we are concerned about expressing because we don’t want the kiddos to feel like they aren’t being protected. And so laying your heart out, will allow your child to lay there as well. willing

Jeremy Kellett  35:59

to listen, willing to listen. Listening is not easy for a lot of people. No. I mean, you’d be surprised though, it solves a lot of problems. It is just over my career here. I’ve done a lot of listening. And it fixes you know, a lot of people, you know, seem to work just not just listening, listening, but actually wanting to listen to their story. And people have somebody to talk to like that. Very good stuff. Any other. Let’s see what else the website was. So

Andreya Reed  36:39

our website comes along, but it is r a n d. H, wellness ar.com. Okay, yeah. And give you a little bit subtler.

Jeremy Kellett  36:51

And we’ll put some screens for the office in North Little Rock, one in Bentonville, Arkansas. So anybody around here, they also can call put that number up. Yeah. Call your practice and check in with you and see what you can do for Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming over here and sitting down with me and talking about this stuff. Very good information. I mean, that a lot of people need to hear I need to, I learned a lot today.

Andreya Reed  37:17

But thank you for having me. This has been a pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Jeremy Kellett  37:22

Thanks, everybody for listening to the Oakley podcast, man. We appreciate it. This was a great episode right here to learn from and I hope it helps you guys out there. Hope you know, if you have questions, definitely call Dr. Reid. He will call to see what she can do for you for sure. I appreciate everybody listening to this and we’ll talk to you next week. Thanks for listening to this episode with Oakley podcast, trucking, business and family. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to rate or review the show in the podcast platform of your choice and share it with a friend. We love hearing from our audience. So if you’ve got a question, comment or just want to say hello, head over to our website, the Oakley podcast.com and click the leave a comment button. We’ll get you a response soon and may even share some of the best ones here on the show. We’ll be back with a fresh episode very soon. Thanks for listening.


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