This week on the Oakley Podcast, host Jeremy Kellett celebrates 100 episodes by welcoming back Justin Oakley, the vice president of Bruce Oakley Inc. Together they answer listener questions, discuss the future of Bruce Oakley Incorporated, and share how global events are affecting Oakley’s business.
Key topics in today’s conversation include:
- Oakley Update: owner-operator recognition (2:43)
- The realm of Bruce Oakley (4:39)
- On the horizon for Oakley (8:56)
- Effects of the pandemic on Oakley (10:15)
- Supply chain effects of the Russian/Ukraine war (12:50)
- Oakley’s global dealings (17:44)
- Plans for the old office building (21:33)
- Dream for Oakley’s future (23:32)
- Thoughts on a company party (25:13)
Oakley Trucking is a family-owned and operated trucking company headquartered in North Little Rock, Arkansas. For more information, check out our show website: podcast.bruceoakley.com
Transcription
Justin Oakley 0:12
My dream, I think dad’s dream, is to keep building the thing, keep doing what we’re doing and grow in the company. Hopefully we’ll have the next generation come in, that’s everybody’s dream. We’re gonna stay a family business and keep plugging away.
Jeremy Kellett 0:29
Welcome to the Oakley podcast, trucking, business, and family. This show is brought to you by Oakley Trucking, headquartered in North Little Rock, Arkansas. The purpose of this podcast is to communicate with Oakley owner-operators and their families by giving them up-to-date information concerning Oakley Trucking and the trucking industry. From business advice to safety updates to success stories. Also to give an inside to outside truck drivers that might be interested in joining the Oakley family.
This is Jeremy Kellett, Director of Recruiting here at Oakley Trucking and I’m your host for this podcast. This is the Oakley podcast, trucking, business, and family. This is episode 100 so on today’s episode, to celebrate our 100th episode, we’re going to go back to where we started with the very first one, and that is the vice president of Bruce Oakley Incorporated, Mr. Justin Oakley, is going to hang out with us today and we’re going to answer some questions that our listeners sent in and also talk about the future of Bruce Oakley, which I know all of you will be interested in hearing about. Also, how the pandemic has affected us and even maybe touch on how the Russians invading Ukraine is having an effect on Oakley. So a lot of good stuff coming up in this episode. I want you all to stay with us as we get started here, but first let’s do an Oakley update sponsored by Arrow Truck Sales.
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So really the Oakley update today is I really just want to recognize one of our operators who has been with us a long time. His name is Neil T. He’s out of Harrison, Arkansas. He’s been with us 26 years. And I remember when Neil started here the day he started he’s just a real quiet guy that gets the job done. And I can’t say enough about what he’s done for Oakley and just staying with us through the good times and the bad times over 26 years and Neil T I want you to know you’re very appreciated. Don’t be trucking. We thank you a lot for your service.
Okay, let’s get started and talk about a few things. What’s going on, Justin? You doing okay today?
Justin Oakley 3:22
Yeah, I’m doing great.
Jeremy Kellett 3:23
Man, do you remember? You did episode one. You were the brave soul that said, “Hey, I’ll do it with you. Let’s kick off this podcast.” Well, and this has nothing against you, but I went back and listened to episode one the other day. It was terrible. It was terrible, man.
Justin Oakley 3:42
It was a learning experience.
Jeremy Kellett 3:45
You did a good job. It was just you could tell I didn’t know what I was doing, so it was something different, but we have come a long ways since episode one. It was actually in March 10 years ago. Things were a lot different two years ago, pre-pandemic. A lot of things have changed. We did that over in the old office. Since then we’ve moved. A lot of things have gone on since we’ve done episode one, and I want to talk about some of that stuff too, but also kind of want to get our listeners an idea about Oakley, too. I get a lot of questions sometimes. They don’t understand the realm of Bruce Oakley. Yes, we’re the trucking company, but there’s a lot more to it than that. Can you kind of give us how many ports or how many locations we have about and maybe where a lot of them are located?
Justin Oakley 4:46
Yeah, so there are no 18 to 20 Total locations. All those different know they’re not all river ports. You know, two of those are bagging facilities. We’ve got our facility down at reserve Rosedale, Mississippi is Jan trans headquarters. So it’s a shipyard fleet office area, but not necessarily a port. And all the rest up would be river ports.
Jeremy Kellett 5:09
Yeah, and that’s because that’s the way you put it together. You know, the river is a lot of the business that we do is off the river. So I mean, it makes sense to get on with your in May. I’m noticed, you know, along with the St. Louis but even up into Illinois, or Cincinnati?
Justin Oakley 5:29
Well, both, yeah. We’ve got a place up in Cincinnati, Ohio River. And then on the Illinois River, the upper end of the Illinois, we’ve got two facilities Ottawa, and Seneca, Illinois auto was dry products, and Seneca is liquid fertilizer.
Jeremy Kellett 5:44
Okay, nice. What’s the most recent one you acquired?
Justin Oakley 5:49
The most recent thing is the bagging plant west of St. Louis and Forest Hill, Missouri. So kind of growing it, it kind of goes hand in hand with BD what we do at BB a little bit bag and similar products there. We’re kind of merging those two.
Jeremy Kellett 6:06
What made us step out and buy that facility? Was it just an opportunity, or did you see something?
Justin Oakley 6:12
Yeah, it was an opportunity, it was the direction that we wanted to go in, in terms of bagging more of our bulk commodity-type products, kind of going a little bit further downstream, didn’t know exactly how that was gonna look, it was just something that we wanted to do. And that this company was called TNA. And they were a customer of ours. And they, you know, one of our guys and more of their guys kind of got to talking. And hey, this could make sense. And he brought me into the fold. And I agree with him. And there we go.
Jeremy Kellett 6:41
That’s good. That’s a good acquisition there to kind of just keep going on down the line of the product that you get into where it actually ends up.
Justin Oakley 6:51
Exactly, going down the supply chain a little bit. So, you know, we may import some product, put it in a barge in New Orleans, take it to St. Louis, it goes through our river terminal there, Oakley trucking, truck it to the bag and plant, bag it up, you know, and truck it to, you know, distribution center retail store somewhere. So that’s vertically integrated business.
Jeremy Kellett 7:12
You know, that’s the next thing you want to be able to get straight to the, to the cut. Yeah, I mean, that the whole supply chain. So I mean, I know we got a lot of I mean, it’s just a lot of places that we have that we don’t realize do a lot of things like the Oklahoma port 33 is a great place and maintenance that we’ve acquired, like eight years ago, maybe and it’s been a great asset to Oakley. Fantastic. I mean, all separate all different ways with St. Louis, we got a lot of promise for that one up there that we definitely could use some guys in that area. little plug for Oakley Trucking, we need some help up there in St. Louis, if you’re around there, we got opportunity there.
I just think it’s really neat the way that you and your dad and your grandpa have made this company over the years of dealing with barges, and trucking, and the facilities and putting it all together and getting it to the customer is just it’s really good to see how that started. And then how you’re taking it over and making it continue and keeping it going because I don’t know about you, but I hear, and I know these listeners be with me, but you hear a lot of places that the next generation takes over and it just gives a crap, Justin.
Justin Oakley 8:39
Yeah. I’ve heard a lot of that and Dad’s kind of picked on me a little bit in a joking way. That third generation, that’s who messes it up.
Jeremy Kellett 8:50
That’s a lot of pressure.
Justin Oakley 8:52
It’s alright.
Jeremy Kellett 8:53
It is, and I’m just glad to see it’s going good. What are the future stuff? I mean, as far as locations are expansion? Y’all got anything you looking at?
Justin Oakley 9:02
Yeah, we’ve got some irons in the fire. I mean, can’t really I’m not at a point to name names or anything like that. Right? On the off chance a competitor might listen to the podcast. That’s good idea. Now we’re still looking around, we want to continue to grow we’re in a good spot to do it.
Jeremy Kellett 9:19
That takes a lot, you wanting to invest back in the company and the company and continue to grow it. That means a lot to everybody I think listing because you don’t want somebody just sitting on it and not progressing. I think it means a lot when you’re looking to do different things and expand so that’s it means a lot to a lot of people that good cuz you’re touching a lot of people with it I’m sure you know it realize it every day you touching a lot of people out there a lot of people’s families and livelihoods and stuff that makes a big difference, the decisions that are made in this building.
Justin Oakley 10:03
Well, when you put it that way, it’s a little intimidating.
Jeremy Kellett 10:06
Sorry about that.
Justin Oakley 10:08
Oh, no, don’t be. It’s good to put it in perspective. This company is fun, you know.
Jeremy Kellett 10:14
What’s the pandemic done to us? I can go on about it in the trucking but, two years, man, we didn’t have a clue when we did a farce podcast of what all was about to happen. What’s some of the effects its had on us? On Bruce Oakley Incorporated?
Justin Oakley 10:30
In 2020, with the shutdowns and all that, it was tough. We were running a lot of trucks, and then a lot of our customers telling us, Hey, we’re shutting down, or their customers shutting down, so they don’t have anything to ship or whatever the case may be. So we’re scratching and clawing and just trying to find lows to keep trucks busy. We’re not even thinking about, Oh, what, what are we going to do to make money? today? We’re thinking about what are we doing to take care of drivers today? And it was a lot of work on dispatch. But they’ve been through, maybe not to that extent, but they’ve been through hard times before. And they, they did their job and did fantastic. And I think they did, they took care of drivers. And I think everyone’s proud of them for that. And proud of the drivers for all the work that they did to the pandemic, it was tough with shippers and receivers, you know, no one knew that much about the virus at the time. And so for it’s unfortunate, but people looked at drivers as they’re the ones that could be carrying it, because they’re going state to state and traveling around while everyone else is hiding out at home. And that was unfortunate, you know, that that perception was out there, but it made it tough on everybody. So we kind of we get through that, you know, I think as good as we could, and you get to 2021. And think the economy’s opening back up, not just ours, but you know, around the world. And there’s demand for everything. And I think it caught almost everybody flat-footed. And the supply is not really there. Because so many places were shut down for periods of time or, you know, throttled back if they weren’t shut down, and, and, you know, commodities, goods, that they’re not there to meet the demand. So things have gotten wild in 2021. And for us, it was good. We had a good year in 2021, across the board. But it still had a lot of challenges in terms of labor, terms of inflation, just the supply chain has been stressed.
Jeremy Kellett 12:32
And still is.
Justin Oakley 12:33
And still is, yeah. It hasn’t let up.
Jeremy Kellett 12:37
You think it’s gonna last all year?
Justin Oakley 12:40
Well, we’ve got a wildcard that I know we were gonna discuss a little bit of, so I don’t want to jump ahead, but this war has gotten started.
Jeremy Kellett 12:49
Go ahead, go ahead. How’s Russia invading Ukraine? How’s that affecting what’s going on?
Justin Oakley 12:54
Well, before I get in the business side of it, this is a humanitarian disaster that’s going on. There are people that are losing their lives, families getting separated. I want to keep it into perspective before I just talk about business. It’s a tragedy.
Jeremy Kellett 13:10
Very good point.
Justin Oakley 13:12
On the business side of things, we’re already talking about the pandemic and how supply of everything is just not keeping up with demand, and then you throw this wrench. Things were already stressed, and then you throw in this war. Ukraine on its own is a large wheat producer, big agricultural economy. They export a lot in the Black Sea into international markets. They can’t really operate right now, so that takes product out of the international market. It’s got to be resupplied from somewhere. So you’ve got more supply out, demand is not backing off, so prices are going up still. Then Russia is a massive country. It’s rich in natural resources, it exports almost all of those things. Oil is what’s in the news, the energy, but they do a lot. They’re a huge grain producer.
Jeremy Kellett 14:06
I was looking at—of course, this is just me not know much about it—but I actually pulled up Google Earth and looked at Russia.
Justin Oakley 14:15
It’s massive.
Jeremy Kellett 14:15
It’s massive, the territory that it covers, and then I was looking at some of the countries that border it. Actually, what I was doing is, my son has a friend that’s in the army and he is in Lithuania and I was looking to see where that was. They’re not very far, and it just made me realize how huge Russia is. It’s massive if you look at it on Google Earth.
Justin Oakley 14:40
It’s massive. So in addition to oil and grain, they are huge steel producer and exporter, fertilizer, they’re huge potash, all the nitrogen products, phosphate, they export all that, amongst other things, coal, the prices for all of these things have gone up hugely. You know, coal is something that no one really talks about as much anymore green energy and all this. But I mean, the price of coal has more than doubled in 30 or 40 days. Driven by this situation.
Jeremy Kellett 15:17
Just because they think supply is going on slow down, I guess?
Justin Oakley 15:22
Well, yeah, you take that Russian coal out of the market. People don’t want to do business with Russia, and then a lot of governments are on top of that, say, and, you know, he can’t do business with Russia with sanctions, removing them from Swift, you know, so even if you wanted to do business with them, on the financial side of it, you can’t complete the transaction. So it’s having ripple effects across the board. And it’s taken this way, you know, we were already experiencing inflation. And now you put this on top of it, and people are going to feel it, I think it’s going to be so that goes back to your question earlier, you know, is this you know, before we start talking about the war is just going to continue throughout the year? I don’t know. But I think this Wars is a catalyst that could make this supply stuff continue throughout the year.
Jeremy Kellett 16:09
Not going to help things.
Justin Oakley 16:11
It’s not going to help things.
Jeremy Kellett 16:13
Yeah, that’s unfortunate, too, because it kind of felt like we were starting to gain a little bit of ground and things were getting a little bit better so I was really looking forward to this year. We’re still having supply chain issues, for sure, but now with this Russian deal going on, you just think oh my gosh, that’s just gonna make it make it even worse.
Justin Oakley 16:37
I found out about five minutes before sitting down with you. We’re supposed to be loading right now a cargo of urea out of Nigeria. And urea, today is about hitting all-time highs. And the producer there Nigeria is getting forced measured by their natural gas supplier, he need natural gas to produce nitrogen fertilizer. Natural gas has gone crazy. Prices were already high in Europe and now the Russia stuff is making that even more, so their natural gas suppliers having difficulties supplying the urea plant urea plants telling us we’re not going to be able to load your ship really well. We kind of need that product for you know, the Spring application season kill enough. So just the ripple effects of all this or far and wide. I mean, I know what it’s doing to us, but I can’t even imagine what it’s doing to other folks throughout the world.
Jeremy Kellett 17:31
So now, five minutes before coming in here, you got the possibility of being short on selling urea, getting it over here.
Justin Oakley 17:38
I think we’ll find some more somewhere, but yeah, it’s creating some headaches.
Jeremy Kellett 17:43
I bet it is. A lot of our listeners, I don’t think realize that you do that kind of business from other countries. You buy a lot of that product from other countries. I guess you got to.
Justin Oakley 17:56
Yeah, we make a lot of that stuff here, but we just don’t have the resources to supply all of our fertilizer demand, especially on phosphates and potash. You know, we can build more nitrogen production in the States, but we just we don’t have it today, so we have to import.
Jeremy Kellett 18:13
Yeah. How many of those ships— When you say ship, you’re talking about one vessel?
Justin Oakley 18:22
Yeah, a Panamax handymax ship. It’s typically it’s gonna be 40-60,000 metric tons.
Jeremy Kellett 18:29
Wow. That’s a lot.
Justin Oakley 18:32
It’s a lot, yeah.
Jeremy Kellett 18:33
And then that comes over on a vessel to typically what New Orleans for us. Yeah, that’s where we would bring and then it’s unloaded on barges there.
Justin Oakley 18:43
Yeah, there are floating clamshell cranes. They will unload the ship, put the product into barges and then we will take our barges up to the river terminals. Go into storage and get ready to ship out on a truck or rail car.
Jeremy Kellett 18:59
Bruce Oakley how many barges, you think?
Justin Oakley 19:02
About 200 barges, so that’s good. We like that business is strategic for us. But we’re still a net buyer of barge freight. We don’t have enough barges to cover our needs. It’s a little bit different than the trucks out of the business.
Jeremy Kellett 19:17
I gotcha. Gotta use them to the outside. Nice. So I want to take a minute and talk about LubeZone.
LubeZone has been a sponsor of the Oakley podcast for a long time. They have good people over there. Jeff and Megan do a great job and they provide good discounts for Oakley owner-operators, but also just a great place to go. They’ve got 11 locations: Texas, California, Oklahoma, Georgia. They’re primarily along major highway exits, which allows easy access. They can do a lot of stuff there. They got full-service oil changes like tractor and trailer grease, air filters, oil analysis, tire checks, DOT inspections. These guys can do it all and we love Doing business with them. I actually had one of our owner-operators, he went to lube zone, he said, Hey, I’m going in here, and I’m going to find out how their services if they’re fast, and if I get a discount, and I said, Aren’t you let me know when you get out of there. So he called me back and he said, I just want you to know that’s a great place to go. It’s clean. It’s nice, the service was great. He got the full-fledged filters all changed the whole nine yards service. And he also got his $40 discount, and you got to tell him, you heard it on the Oakley podcast, that you are with Oakley trucking, and they will give you a discount and just great service from those guys. We appreciate them being a sponsor of the Oakley podcast. And if you’re in one of those areas, you look and you go to LubeZone.com. And you see where their locations are. And if you’re close by either go try them out and let me know how your service was because we’ll give the feedback back to LubeZone. And check out the rewards program that’s really good to just be sure and check them out and let them know you heard it on the Oakley podcast.
Hey, I had just to get off of that stuff a little bit. Had a couple of questions from our listeners that wanted to ask you. One thing was, a lot of our listeners are people that don’t know Oakley so I guess won’t know this, but we’ve moved from the old office, which had been there a long time, especially the front quarter of it had been there a long time.
Justin Oakley 21:24
Mid-late 70s.
Jeremy Kellett 21:25
Was it? And we just kept adding on 50 foot, 50 foot, 50 foot. We ran out room, you built this great office over here, what’s gonna happen with the old office? A lot of guys asking me, you got any plans? I know the scale still operating over there, so you got that. But yeah, what else?
Justin Oakley 21:43
We’ve got some tentative plans for it. You know, there are a lot of folks that have opinions.
Jeremy Kellett 21:50
Or what we call “suggestions.”
Justin Oakley 21:53
Yeah. And they’re not all the same. You know, we need to do this do that. But, you know, there are some different ideas. Right now. We just, we’ve been busy with other things. I don’t want to make excuses for it. But to be specific, we don’t have a real plan for it yet.
Jeremy Kellett 22:08
It’s not a priority, I guess right now.
Justin Oakley 22:10
No, I mean, it’s not hurting anything.
Jeremy Kellett 22:12
We got a tarp over the fertilizer bin out here. We need priority.
Justin Oakley 22:18
Yeah. We’ve greenlit a construction project for a new building out here, new fertilizer warehouse, we’re gonna get that built and tear this old one down. And you’re right, a lot bigger priority.
Jeremy Kellett 22:31
I’m sure you’ve had suggestions of just tearing it down? Or half of it and more room out there. Yeah. is a big part of it. But I also know, you know, we got some, I don’t know if it still uses that room over there. And on if there’s anything. Yeah, we got some of that stuff, too. So there’s some cable that runs through there.
Justin Oakley 22:50
We need to keep that.
Jeremy Kellett 22:51
Yeah, so there’s your answer, folks, on the old building. We really don’t know, priority right now. We’ll do something new something basically with it for sure. The other See, that was only see that was being he was asking that because he was wanting to place to work out. He’s thought about using that as a GM, which I’m sure that’s been suggested to me.
Justin Oakley 23:14
That’s a good idea.
Jeremy Kellett 23:14
It is a good idea. Yeah. And then we might have answered this question. This is from Art. Where’s Oakley going? Future plans expansion? Obviously, we aren’t just sitting around, but what is the dream for the future?
Justin Oakley 23:28
Dream for the future. Well, my dream, I think dad’s dream, is to keep building the thing, keep doing what we’re doing and grow in the company. Hopefully we’ll have the next generation come in, that’s everybody’s dream. My kids are little and other cousins and stuff are little. Who knows? But I think we’re gonna stay a family business and keep plugging away.
Jeremy Kellett 24:00
That’s important to you all, isn’t it, Justin?
Justin Oakley 24:02
Oh, yeah. It’s huge.
Jeremy Kellett 24:04
That’s gotta mean a whole lot. I mean, you know, I think a lot of my grandpa that’s not with us any longer now, you know, and I always think about trying to do things like he did it and keep his legacy going, you know, and passing on things that he did, which, you know, whatever it was was little, you know, passing that along to my kids. So I can only imagine having an operation like this feeling like you know, let’s be in a privately owned company of this size is important and pass it on down. Yeah, I’m glad to hear that. I had so I hope that answers your question. Arden and I had John he was talking about basically he was talking about it, we’re gonna have company party. Now he said he was he would like to get trucks and trailers and have a big, big gathering of just not only everybody but like their families and other people who might draw some attention out here to the company party. We’ve talked a little bit about that, whether it’s a truck show or have a few guys shine their trucks up come out here on the yard.
What’s the latest? I know it’s early, this is March, and we haven’t had a company party. We always do it in October. What’s the thoughts on that this year?
Justin Oakley 25:23
My thought is that we’re going to have a company party. This omicron variant seems to have fallen off in a pretty dramatic way and things are reopening. I think people are learning to live with the virus. And I don’t know if I need to be politically correct or whatever. But I think a lot of people are over it. And I think we’re gonna have a company party. That being said, you know, the last two years have been pretty wild. And you never know what kind of curveball is going to be thrown at you. So something could happen to derail that plan that it looks good today.
Jeremy Kellett 25:55
Good. You think we have seen it all in the last two years and then Russia throws us another curve. But yeah, that’s good to hear because a lot of people miss the company party. If I miss it, I’ll do it for you guys. After there’s never been to one of our get-togethers in October. It’s just a fantastic opportunity for all of us to get away from the business side of it. And we give out awards to not only truck drivers, owner-operators, but also to employees. We recognize employees all the time. We have a big, you know, big thing catered usually fish with and then we have big dance afterward. It’s all right here on a normal rock yard. And there are families that come from everywhere. You know, we have guys come in we had used to have a motorcycle ride the day of Roger wood safety guy would take the motorcycle guys and I go all over Arkansas and come back that day. We had guys drive from everywhere, on their motorcycle just to do that. So yeah, good stuff. That’s good. I hope we’re able to do it too. And continue on the Oakley party. I remember those days when we actually got on a boat and rented a boat out here and went up and down the river. I forgot the name of that riverboat. As before my time as for your time. Yeah, that was something else. We had to quit that. We might have lost one or two off the boat. Other than that, family doing good?
Justin Oakley 27:17
My family’s doing great. Yeah, kids doing great. Six and three now.
Jeremy Kellett 27:21
There you go, six and three. Wow. Well, they’ll be gone before you know it, man. Enjoy those times.
Justin Oakley 27:27
I’m trying to.
Jeremy Kellett 27:28
They can be a little tiresome, but they enjoy those times. So any other input? I think we’ve, you’ve answered all the questions that we had sent in, and all the ones that I was thinking about everything. And it just looks to be a good year, you know, which trucking to challenge.
Justin Oakley 27:46
I mean, it’s a challenge.
Jeremy Kellett 27:48
It’s a challenge right now, because finding gas, the overpricing of trucks. Yeah, the fuel now just makes people not want to buy a truck right now. And it’s gonna make a little tougher on trucking, but we’re still, you know, still gonna have a good year, and we’ll keep at it. But other than that, I guess everything else is looking good?
Justin Oakley 28:10
Everything’s looking good, it’s just trying to find drivers. We’re struggling to service the demand that our customer base has right now, not just on the trucking side but hiring folks at terminals and boats. It’s just tough. It’s a good problem, but it’s a problem so we’re going to stay after it.
Jeremy Kellett 28:31
Yeah. Well, man, I appreciate you hanging out with me.
Justin Oakley 28:34
Yeah, same here. Thanks for having me.
Jeremy Kellett 28:36
Man, you know, 100. 100 episodes.
Justin Oakley 28:40
I’ll say, you kind of brought this up to me before you got started and we visited a little bit about it like, okay, we’ll see how it goes. I was a little bit skeptical. Not bad, a little bit, but man, I look forward to it every week. I always try to pull it up on YouTube if I’m in the office or listen on Spotify if I’m in the truck. It’s a good production. You’ve done a great job with it.
Jeremy Kellett 29:01
I appreciate you letting us do it. I really do. I never knew it would do is what it’s doing. You know, we’re getting a lot of stuff out of it with recruiting and retention and rompers want to listen to it now. Yeah. I mean, you know, it makes a difference. We’ve had stuff, you know, in these past 100 episodes, man we’ve had do T officers are in so Trucking Association president tax advice, safety news, who had all kinds of stuff. Yeah, it went, we run out of stuff. I get one of my sons to come in here. Yeah. Hey, get in touch. And let tell you a little piece of my life growing up with those boys, but it’s all good. And I appreciate you letting us do it. And we looking forward to, what’s the next one? 200?
Justin Oakley 29:44
I was gonna say 500. That might be a while, though. I’ll come back.
Jeremy Kellett 29:50
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